Balance topics summary

[Ghost]

[last update: 16.05.2011]

This is a list of the major balance topics.
Before you start a new topic please make sure the issue isn't already being discussed. And please name topics like this:

[Version of Eastern Front] "Issue to discuss"

If you want your topic being added to the list, just reply and I'll add it.

CoH:EF Stats thread 1.03 (partially) WIP[Unofficial]
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[1.3.1.0]:


Infantry

Conscripts
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Soviet Abilities

IL-2
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Sniperteam Artillery Strike
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General Suggestions

Various
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Red Army & CW combination
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[1.2] - [1.3.0.2]:

Infantry suggestions

Sharpshooter team
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PTRD Tankhunters
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Vehicle suggestions

ISU-152
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Katyusha
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Zis-2 AT Gun
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T-34/85
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Ability suggestions

IL-2 Sturmovik
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Building suggestions
Upgrade suggestions
Tweaks, general suggestions

Defensive Game
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Non Soviet abilities / units
AI issues
Map balance


Re-balancing

General
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Wehrmacht
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Brits
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Panzer Elite
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Americans
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[1.10] - [1.11]:

Infantry suggestions

Infantry
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Conscripts
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Strelky
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Mortars
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Sniper Team
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Tankhunters
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Vehicle suggestions

Lend/Lease Sherman
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AT guns
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Building suggestions

Outpost
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Ability suggestions

Command Squad -> artillery barrage
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"God of War" ability
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Upgrade suggestions

Tweaks, general suggestions

Limit on units
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Various Suggestions
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Non Soviet abilities / units

Kangaroo
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AI issues

Katyusha spamming
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Map balance


[1.04]:

Infantry suggestions

Mortars
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Sharpshooter Team
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Command Squad
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Strelky
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Conscripts
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Ingenery
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Tankbusters
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Vehicle suggestions

Katyushas
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T34
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T90
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SU 85/100
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IS-2
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Tanks
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Building suggestions

MG Dugout
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Firebases
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Ability suggestions

IL-2
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"Recover wrecks" ability
the problem doesn't exist anymore since the ability is no longer part of the doctrine

"God of War" ability
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Upgrade suggestions

Upgrades
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Tweaks, general suggestions

Tier system suggestions
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General tweaks
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Ammo management
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Strategy suggestions / problems

Soviet rushing/spamming
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Non Soviet abilities / units

German "Force retreat" / "Propaganda War" abilities
according to dragon93 the problem is solved

PE Fallschirmjäger vs. Soviets
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Limits to non soviet call-ins
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AI issues

AI resource "cheats"
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Map balance

Prokhorovka (6)
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[Versedhorison]

this is stick worthey

[Polo]

this is stick worthey

+1

Nice Work

[Seeme]

We sould ketp this toic in the top of the page, so here it goes befor it goes to pag 2 and none reads it.

[BurroDiablo]

Thanks for this, will sticky.

[Ghost]

Update

The Wehrmacht Terror Propaganda doctrine ability is now working properly against the Russians - forcing a retreat.[...]

one less problem

[Versedhorison]

can we have a source for this? just for comformation.

[WartyX]

Dragon93 is the Lead Programmer. What better a source?

[BurroDiablo]

Its not entirely working properly, AI Soviet can retreat as normal even though there is no option to retreat for Human Soviet players.

[Chasovnikov]

Where is the balance? Something I do not see! 

playback:
http://depositfiles.com/files/8xigrig4j [nofollow]

[Ghost]

well, maybe you can start by telling us, which player you were and what your problem is. i watched the replay and i just don't get it 

no offense, but:
soviet used lots of arty and mortar while wehr players looked a bit stubborn and noobish trying to defend with bunkers being bombed without even trying to rush the mortars with infantry... and then in the middle of the game the replay ends...

[Chasovnikov]

All expensive. Infantry, engineers are weak. Still don't have guns, mortars, etc.
It became better, but on former there is no capture of guns and mortars.
The infantry in comparison with the first version became weak.
Manual machine guns aren't effective. All is expensive.
Models of guardsmen the bad.

playback
http://depositfiles.com/files/bi767vfuh [nofollow]

In the first version EF of an arrow cost cheaper and were more effective.
Light tanks (T-70, T-90) must be cheaper or more affordable.
Improvements to produce (Headquarters).
RD Tank Hunter-the ability of a horse with horseshoes medium tank.
"It is good against light vehicles and the sides and rear of medium tanks"

well, maybe you can start by telling us, which player you were and what your problem is. i watched the replay and i just don't get it 

no offense, but:
soviet used lots of arty and mortar while wehr players looked a bit stubborn and noobish trying to defend with bunkers being bombed without even trying to rush the mortars with infantry... and then in the middle of the game the replay ends...

The impact OF THE ML-20 which bombed and impossible Firebase to capture.

[Ghost]

the unit costs were increased for balance reasons.

soviet units cannot capture heavy weapons because of a bug that can only be solved by relic not the EF team.

models have nothing to do with balance, post something like that in here:
http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?board=64.0

In the first version EF of an arrow cost cheaper and were more effective.[...]RD Tank Hunter-the ability of a horse with horseshoes medium tank. (make the possibility of a horse with horseshoes Medium Tank).

i think we have a language problem here  maybe write it in your own language and then we will find someone who can translate.

[Chasovnikov]

No one plays.

Я говорил, что надо дать возможность бронебойщикам (RD Tank Hunter) подбивать средние танки.

Пока вы наконец не сделаете захват пушек, минометов и т.д. - не о каком балансе речи быть не может. Тем более что на первых порах отрядам не хватает станкового пулемета (DS-39 machine gun).
Альтернативой может быть  ba
http://www.battlefield.ru/content/view/22/lang,en/ [nofollow]
http://bronetehnika.narod.ru/ba3/ba3.html [nofollow]

http://forum.bestway.com.ua/showthread.php?t=3995 [nofollow]

http://operation-barbarossa.narod.ru/bronevik/index.htm [nofollow]

[UeArtemis]

He said that Tank Hunter should be able to tamp medium tanks, we need capturing of heavy weapons for the real balance, and we need ДС-39 machine gun at early game (or БА-3).