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Offline Seeme

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My dear Conscripts.[1.10]
« on: May 22, 2010, 10:29:47 PM »
I love everything about this mod but one thing-the Conscripts.

Why did you have to add pop to them? There useless now!Just spend 500 mp and you get better trained,  less pop cap streaky vs 200mp less trained higher popcap Conscripts.

There about useless now...
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Re: My dear Conscripts.[1.10]
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2010, 11:03:22 PM »
0 pop, cheap as chips conscripts were the bane of early game. Too many people simply spammed them and forgo even upgrading them or buying strelkies saving resources for tanks etc...which was crap. The spamming was just ridicilous in team games.
What the conscripts now do...is they give you a limited amout of cheap throwaway units to use from early to late game without investing too much(which no other army really has). They can cap fast...hold buildings,flank,harass etc...but they certainly won't ever make up the bulk of your army
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Re: My dear Conscripts.[1.10]
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2010, 11:35:39 PM »
Thank!

But I think 8 is too much- I would put it to 4 becuase theres 4 men carrying rifles. When you get NVKD Conscripts, they should be 8.
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Re: My dear Conscripts.[1.10]
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2010, 12:02:28 AM »
Wait what?? Conscripts pop 8? That's not supposed to be the case....wasn't on the changelog...and I never recommended that...i think it may have been an oversight or a ...'stealth change'
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Re: My dear Conscripts.[1.10]
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2010, 04:35:57 AM »
Confirmed, they are 8 pop.  Makes them completely useless atm. 

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Re: My dear Conscripts.[1.10]
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2010, 05:15:12 AM »
They really are useless at 8 pop, especially now that it's so easy to get Strelky. NKVDs are alright though.

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Re: My dear Conscripts.[1.10]
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2010, 06:29:28 AM »
Compared to red banner?  Still useless and they will continue to be until a patch fixes it.

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Re: My dear Conscripts.[1.10]
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2010, 08:31:16 AM »
8 pop for those untrained ba**ards :o lol
« Last Edit: May 23, 2010, 11:23:24 AM by omya »
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Re: My dear Conscripts.[1.10]
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2010, 10:15:20 AM »
This is a job for the next patch.  :)
Only constripts with rifles should cost pop.

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Re: My dear Conscripts.[1.10]
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2010, 11:27:06 AM »
This is a job for the next patch.  :)
Only constripts with rifles should cost pop.
from my view popcap should b 2 not 4 in the next patch  8)
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« Last Edit: May 23, 2010, 11:33:41 AM by omya »
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Re: My dear Conscripts.[1.10]
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2010, 11:54:09 AM »
I think giving them a pop cap was a good thing to do because I had never upgraded my conscripts because I could build as many as I wanted at any point in the game.

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Re: My dear Conscripts.[1.10]
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2010, 12:04:48 PM »
I think giving them a pop cap was a good thing to do because I had never upgraded my conscripts because I could build as many as I wanted at any point in the game.

I always upgrade conscript, because of the fabulous commisar who lead them!
Now commisar have a PPSH and new skin, I found him terribly charismatic and I upgrade my conscript as soon as I can!
0 pop, cheap as chips conscripts were the bane of early game. Too many people simply spammed them and forgo even upgrading them or buying strelkies saving resources for tanks etc...which was crap. The spamming was just ridicilous in team games.
What the conscripts now do...is they give you a limited amout of cheap throwaway units to use from early to late game without investing too much(which no other army really has). They can cap fast...hold buildings,flank,harass etc...but they certainly won't ever make up the bulk of your army

I think thats the true purpose of conscript and upgraded conscript, and you have make it so fun! As I always upgrade them the population cap problem isn't for me, but it would be cool if unupgraded conscript have 4 pop cap.
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Re: My dear Conscripts.[1.10]
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2010, 02:26:23 PM »
The coward has spoken. They hate the new Conscripts. Can you atleast lower the cost? 
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Re: My dear Conscripts.[1.10]
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2010, 02:46:48 PM »
Since it was unintended I think it will be changed in the next patch.

About the hard cap, I think the reason Conscripts were spamed last patch in the early game was due to lag of alternatives and not because you could. I think a better way to deal with a problem like this is to give the player alternatives and not to hard cap the unit.

But since I try to use so few Conscripts as possible I don't think that the hard cap will effect my game that much.

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Re: My dear Conscripts.[1.10]
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2010, 03:15:15 PM »
Oh trust me, I love that conscripts aren't spammed anymore but they're still useless now. :P