The SS

[Gerrit 'Lord Rommel' G.]

I believe that we should not add the SS, the Panzer Elite is the disguised Waffen-SS.

Sorry, but I have to correct you here: The Panzer Elite is supposed to be the Panzer Lehr Division - Wehrmacht, not Waffen-SS.

Think i have to correct YOU
PE is not clear.
But there are some heavy points against Panzer-Lehr-Division.
1.) Panzer-Lehr-Division never fought at the netherlands.
2.) PLD ( Panzer-Lehr-Division ) was an elite devision so they got the best tanks, weapons and supplies of all units.
3.) PLD had no Marder III, Panzer IV ausf. E or JgPz 38 t tanks.

[Ryousan]

I think the SS should be included

[Aouch]

I agree with Lord Rommel, it's not 100% sure what the PE should depict. The most logical explanation in my opinion, is that the PE should represent a Kampfgruppe made up from the remainings of former Divisons etc.
This also explains why there is a lot of outdated vehicles and "field-modifications". However SS-units could probably be part of this Kampfgruppe, but it would be false to say PE is only SS.

I think this was even said by Lord Rommel himself!

But now back to topic please. This also includes to stop discussing about who raped how many and which side were the bad guys etc. I think that kind of discussion should be hold in the off-topic-area.

[Pauly3]

cool i like devs on that matter a lot
just call em elite troops and it is done with
some other mod (Blitzk....) spammed freakin SS facists everywhere, a reason for me to ignore this mod

[badass10]

there are already other mods containing the SS and they didn't get sued. anyway the SS played a big role in the east. Wittmann and all  the other PanzerAce were part of the Waffen SS. Remember the battle of Kursk where the Leibstandarte was involved. So it would be nice to see some fanatic untis in eastern front. Es ist der große vaterländische krieg !

[UeArtemis]

Dear UeArtemis!

I am hungarian citizen, and noble. My famili has a mill and many factory in the war and never make millitary equipment. But when the russians and his loyalists came to hungary stolen in the name of communism. My famili was made flour and give bread for hungarian peaples in the war. Vorosilov Marshall stolen my grandmothers (grand Barones) residence, and take my famili to the street. Also stole 4 car 2 truck, and all furniture in the house. This house was a Russian HQ in budapest.
My grandfather was killed in the war by russian, but he never fight just work in the flour factory. This is my family storry and this was true. The Russians was agressive and brutal peaple in the war by civilians.

I think it was simply an expropriation of the Wartime.
Could you tell us how exactly your relative died?
P.S. You are a nobleman - a "class enemy" of the Communists. Stalin wan't Russian, Soviet solders weren't all Russians, but you accuse Russian of cruelty to Hungarians, while, perhaps, was a cruelty of the Communists to nobles.

[PetikeHUN1984]

UeArtemis

Sorry, but i dont want to talk about it. This is private thing.
Why you interested in this thing?

[UeArtemis]

OK. I found this interesting because I could explain how it looked in the eyes of the Soviet people.

I think that we do not need another German faction. I want to see the Hungarian tanks in the game.
I like 40M Turan II.

[PetikeHUN1984]

I think that we do not need another German faction. I want to see the Hungarian tanks in the game.
I like 40M Turan II.

Yes!!!! But we are alone with this thing.


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The first Hungarian Armored Div.


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35M Ansaldo


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39M Csaba


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40M Nimrod AA and tank hunter


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28M Toldi


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LT vz 35


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Turan I


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Turn II


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Turan III (made only prototype)


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Zrínyi


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[UeArtemis]

39M Csaba Photo!!! I never saw it before

We have the Wehrmacht for the German Wehrmacht.
We Panzer Elite for the German Waffen-SS (let repainted them )
I think we need a not German faction. The best candidate is Hungary, because it had own unique tanks.
Just strange to have only Germans in the Axis.

[PetikeHUN1984]

Csaba was a light recon and armored command wehicle.

this is a recon version 40M whit radio antenna.


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Post Merge: June 04, 2010, 10:24:09 PMYes the hungarians just stay in supplie ctegory in the Axis Kampfguppe "Kárpát". The HUN-ans has 3 Army and 3 SS Division and some Grund attack, Bomber and many popular fighter plane squadron(Pumas).

But the Kampfgruppe "Kárpát" includes Romanians, Slovakian soldiers to.

[Kaze_Ostheer]

I like to see the SS part of the Ostheer.

[Seeme]

Just put in somewhere a unit called the SS.

The SS


An elite squad of SS troops armed with a Stg44s will fight for the fatherland! These are the crack troops of Germany, and are unsepressable. Use them wisely, you can only get 1!

[PetikeHUN1984]

I dont like to see SS in the Ostheer.
The SS was the Elite Support Troops of the German Army.
The Ostheer include the regular german army, not the SS.
At the Eastern front started the SS was a little and unexperienced division, but inspired and motivated.

Make the SS mod to play with only SS.

[TomaSkTemplar]

The SS label bears lots of negatives to say the least. Even if part of it did its great warcrimes, its still the hatred-filled ideology that made them feel they do no bad thing. Just cleaning up Lebensraum, ja ?- Mindless people--.... just look at whats going on today, some organizations financed by the rich in the background, support these xenophobic groups to get in power in Europe, and make another war - again - in Europe. But this is not the place to speak of it.

when screaming on the Russians how they raped German women etc...First they were Soviets, then, it is true there were rather few individuals who lacked discipline. Rapists were shot on sight. German women could ask for abortion if they said they were raped. Also, most of the soldiers were older, cause the young generation was killed by nazis. Also, even if there was some raping, it is too little to tell the truth. If Stalin was as merciful as Hitler was, I wonder if instead of raping, some 15 million or more German civilians would be killed or more for more Lebensraum. When western barbarians kill, its hushed up, but western propaganda seems to equalize some raping with one of the biggest mass murders. Also the anti-Russian russophobic propaganda implies, no matter Jugashvili was the leader, it is always bad Russians. Cold war "over"...not. They scream about Jews being the innocent victims. But how many non-Jews died? Their lives arent more precious than any other. But theyre given attention by media...and who owns them...

not far away from where I live, SS rounded up civilians, some were shot, some were cut by saws used for cutting wood...
this is just a part of almost endless stories of how the Vaterland was coool and the SS were real pros at everything...exceptionally at losing brains. Not to mention going to a hospital and killing everyone there.