putting a light tank in the ostheer

[ford_prefect]

but  with the flame half track there is no point

Thats like saying that theres no point in having Katyushas because of the Calliope 

touché my friend touché

[Aouch]

As for the light tank matter, a Panzer II Ausf. C would be great but not very effective against Soviet light Armour (maybe effective against Western Allied Jeeps or Bren Carriers) thats why i'm also in favour of the Marder II.

I think Panzer-Spähwagen II aka PzKpfW. II Ausf. L "Luchs" would be better. It's an armored light recon vehicle armed with a MG34 and a 2cm KwK38. Fits better into the CoH-concept (Puma, M17 etc.).
Marder II should be more alongside withe the Marder I and Marder III, a tankdestroyer mentioned to take out even heavy tanks like Shermans and T34.
Therefore it would be a bit too OP in early-mid game.

Why do the Ostheer even needs a counter-part to the soviet light armor? Just make their infantry superior to all the other factions. Expensive units with upgrades and so on, thus they aren't OP in early game, but are going to become a real pain in the *** for allies in late-game.

[BurroDiablo]

Not really, Its worse off than a StuG, maybe even the H39 Marder I too. You maybe right about the gun though, a 75mm gun isn't necessary early on. A 47mm Panzerjager I may fit better... shit armour, resonable gun, decent range.

I was thinking of the Luchs too as an AP tank, but I would have preferred an earlier, more numerous version that we could use in the future campaign. We could probably have both tbh, Luchs could be a reward replacement or something.

[luz777]

For an Anti-Personnel unit I'd go with a Panzer I or II (with upgrade to "Flammingo". After using one in Men of War I'm determined that CoH needs one too haha)
The Luchs would be a nice reward unit too.

A Panzerjager I does fit the bill as an early game tank destroyer quite nicely. Just make it vulnerable to infantry too what with the fairly exposed main gun.

Also, I'd say the StuG III really does need to be in there somewhere. T2 unit.

Seems like the Ostheer vehicles are going to get the proper span from early to late war. Nice. 

Cheers

[ford_prefect]

For all the people who do not know the tanks were talking about here

this is a Luchas tank http://www.achtungpanzer.com/images/luchs_1.jpg

and the Panzerjager http://www.afrikakorps.org/_photos/PanzerjagerI/PanzerjagerITTTPipe.jpg (cuter smaller friendlier version of the marder )

[Aouch]

Not really, Its worse off than a StuG, maybe even the H39 Marder I too. You maybe right about the gun though, a 75mm gun isn't necessary early on. A 47mm Panzerjager I may fit better... shit armour, resonable gun, decent range.

I don't think the Marder II was worse than a Marder I or III.
Look up the thickness of the armor and you'll find out that all three had around 10-20mm armor plates in front of the "turret".
They all used the 7.5cm PaK 40...
Therefore I think the Marder II should be the standard self-propelled anti-tank-gun of the Ostheer, similiar to already existing Marder I and III.
(Maybe IRL the StuG was better, but in vCoH the StuG IV is a lousy tank, therefore the StuG III, which will hopefully be part of the Ostheer, shouldn't be noticeable better.)

As for the PzKpfW. II, I've to agree with you: The Ausf. C would fit in much better, not to mention that it was the C-variant on which the Marder II was built up, thus only one modell has do be done from scratch and the other one just needs a new turret attached.

But please, no Panzerjäger I. That thingy first looks incredibly ugly and second it would be quite useless in mid-late game considering CoH focuses on heavier tanks in this stage.

Look at Lord Rommels proposal, he solved it very nicely.

[ford_prefect]

Not really, Its worse off than a StuG, maybe even the H39 Marder I too. You maybe right about the gun though, a 75mm gun isn't necessary early on. A 47mm Panzerjager I may fit better... shit armour, resonable gun, decent range.

I don't think the Marder II was worse than a Marder I or III.
Look up the thickness of the armor and you'll find out that all three had around 10-20mm armor plates in front of the "turret".
They all used the 7.5cm PaK 40...
Therefore I think the Marder II should be the standard self-propelled anti-tank-gun of the Ostheer, similiar to already existing Marder I and III.
(Maybe IRL the StuG was better, but in vCoH the StuG IV is a lousy tank, therefore the StuG III, which will hopefully be part of the Ostheer, shouldn't be noticeable better.)

As for the PzKpfW. II, I've to agree with you: The Ausf. C would fit in much better, not to mention that it was the C-variant on which the Marder II was built up, thus only one modell has do be done from scratch and the other one just needs a new turret attached.

But please, no Panzerjäger I. That thingy first looks incredibly ugly and second it would be quite useless in mid-late game considering CoH focuses on heavier tanks in this stage.

Look at Lord Rommels proposal, he solved it very nicely.

damm that must have TAKEN A LONG time

[Fhurion]

Panzer III got the job.

http://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/imgs/panzer-3-pzkpfw-iii_3.jpg this thing? Why its perfect. Great thanks! Also how many minuets into the battle would I be able to see a Panzer three?

Woah, check out the pea shooter on that bad boy! What is that anyways? 50mm cannon? By the sounds of it, it'll be a slightly up-armored Puma.