Russian Campaign

[BurroDiablo]

maybe im wrong wasnt this topic about the russian campain ?

i have some suggestions could we get the t35 in the start of the campain

but indeed kv2 is obsolete maybe put in the t35 instead

Wait... the KV-2 is obsolete? And the T-35 isn't? No matter how much I would I'd love to see it ingame too, you can't deny that it was a spectacular failure and would serve no real purpose other than an infantry slaughterer... one hit from a Pak and it would go up in smoke. KV-2 has purpose, it is a heavy artillery tank... plus, it had near impenetrable armour for the time.

[Aouch]

I actually really like the KV-2

Me too! 

One tank for campaign-porpuse could maybe be the BT-7. Predecessor
to the T34. And also used by the Finns to build their BT-42 assault gun. (hint, hint ...)

@ Loupblanc: Finally I got an argument against your uber-ISU152: Giving it artillery-capabilities would make the KV-2 kinda useless, don't you think?

BTW: What the hell is "OE"? object editor for modding CoH?

[Loupblanc]

 - T26/BT were morphed into the T34,yea
 - Oooh, BT42! Good idea! Xcept it wouldn't be soviet
 - I don't want ISU152 to be uber, although it IS end of
 doctrine, it is UNIQUE, whereas the
 KV2 is mid of tree and can have 3 of them. 3x 152mm
 (1939/1940 vs 1x 1943+ 152mm... it better be uber
 I want it multipurpose. Tiger is 9 all scores, like pershing
 can kill infantry AND tanks.  Like IS2 ought to, really.
 Xcept the ISU can shoot off to 13 miles and had bigger
 caliber than IS and no ammo (20) taking 45min to
 refill

  Arty ISU152 makes KV2 obsolete, pointless and useless
 like ... How105mm makes callioppe, P47 bombing runs
 useless??

 If it's 1 vs 3, it better have something going for it.
 Right now, it's apparently just a big JagPanther
 (Fast firing AP shooter)
 (88mm vs 152mm... ehh... noooo)

 : T35 oh wow. Amusing tank, white elephant, though.
 Don't add that, please. Lol. Too rare?
 : Well, actually, in 1943, if there'll be a KV2, it ought
 to be alone and not 3x pack. Where the ISU152 came
 into packs of 5... something wrong here
 : OE : OE is the logical continuation of WE, PE... of course
 !

 : Small note about ISU152, giving it arty capabilities,
 yes, but with abyssal reload time. No barrages, like Priest
 (6 shots)(Open cockpit, large dedicated reload crew)

[bastex]

loup now your asking for it where is my ducktape ...

ive bin thinking about tank riders you get some great inf and a t34 why would you need a tank that you can build twice from the same mp ?

[Loupblanc]

 ooh duck tape. I love duck tapes.
 la danse des canards remix 2008!!! (français, espagnol, allemand, italien!)  God, that stuff rules, it's soo all-purpose

 Listen to it till the end

 T34 Tankriders. I think Svelky ought to be able to ride 'em
 too, though. I really do. More's the merrier Yknow?
 And which tank would be replaced (In your reference?)

 T34 Tank riders ought to work like PE HalfTrack/Kangaroo.
 Just minus much protection, methinks?

[ford_prefect]

 ooh duck tape. I love duck tapes.
 la danse des canards remix 2008!!! (français, espagnol, allemand, italien!)  God, that stuff rules, it's soo all-purpose

 Listen to it till the end

 T34 Tankriders. I think Svelky ought to be able to ride 'em
 too, though. I really do. More's the merrier Yknow?
 And which tank would be replaced (In your reference?)

 T34 Tank riders ought to work like PE HalfTrack/Kangaroo.
 Just minus much protection, methinks?

I VOTE FOR THE DUCK TAPE!!!!!!! It's a shame Loupblanc I was gonna give you a E-cookie for your smaller posts.............. oh well

[Loupblanc]

 ! but I NEED that cookie!

[bastex]

not a duck tape but DUCKTAPE but you already get a heavy at tank but you cant get a heavy inf killing tank in break out (i would like to change the tankrider t34 whit the t35)

[ford_prefect]

not a duck tape but DUCKTAPE but you already get a heavy at tank but you cant get a heavy inf killing tank in break out (i would like to change the tankrider t34 whit the t35)

lol that thing?

[Loupblanc]

 The T35 is, I think, the apparent heavy version of the T-26.
 Was dead and done with by the time the germans began
 barbarossa. Most were lost to mechanical failure than by
 combat. Amusing, but... no. Just don't

 Reward unit?

[ford_prefect]

I like the T-26 though they used them against the Fins and Romanians (and against German light and medium tanks)

[bastex]

there where 3 divisions whit t35 on day 1 of barbarossa day 2 it was 1 division (most lost due mechanical issues)
yes i want it as reward unit =] (thats reason 2 i made the ignore loup topic )

[ford_prefect]

there where 3 divisions whit t35 on day 1 of barbarossa day 2 it was 1 division (most lost due mechanical issues)
yes i want it as reward unit =] (thats reason 2 i made the ignore loup topic )

lol well I give the guy credit he has cut down on the size of his posts (i gave him 2 e-cookies  )

[Loupblanc]

 Meh.
 I wish T26s were in the game Make 'em reward units!
 They're 1937-1940 units, though (Like KV2!)

 - As for the size of my posts, er, I've said enough, methinks
 not to feel the need to write 3-4 page posts anymore. Sigh.
 Now I really feel the need to play the damned thing!

[luz777]

Anywho back on topic...unless my internet is just being shite my campaign idea post and some other ones around it from a few pages back seem to have vanished...here goes again anyway.

Having just seen something last night it gave me an idea for something Campaign related.

It came to my attention that, by fiddling with the atmosphere properties most likely, you can make maps black and white. Except for the explosions and gunfire.

Idea is thus...

Instead of making the Campaign one of some elite Russian unit that fought at every battle in a completely unrealistic way.
Have the main "character" as it were, like the Tiger Ace guys, fighting from say, Stalingrad to Berlin.
However, include the character of some grizzled old Comissar leading the company.
In between some of the battles have the soldiers in the Company talking to him.
Where he can tell them of his experiences earlier on in the war when the Soviets were on the retreat.

Leading to "flashback" missions where you play in earlier battles where this Comissar was, with stylized black and white maps to add to the "dreamlike" effect (or not, if you dont like the idea of that).

So yeah, a good way of splitting the campaign up, making it a bit more diverse, and adding a bit of story telling and character development in there...or just a daft idea 

What do you guys think? Be nice 

Cheers

EDIT

Heres a link to the map that gave me the idea

http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=125524