Russian Campaign

[Loupblanc]

 Hey, Rizz
 Well, everyone here knows we have to remove old factions
 to install new ones. Removing Wehr and PE to install Soviets
 and OE, right?

 Personally, I wouldn't know if it's hard-coded or not, but it
 would definitively be preferably to add as opposed to replace
 .
 
 - New maps. God thank you for them not to have to be
 replaced
 - New factions : Read above
 - New Campaigns : Need I say more?

 Now all we need is to convince Relic to add 'em to
 forthcoming patches (As long as they are compatible
 to current way of doing things). (ie: Vanilla).

[Rikard Blixt]

No, no, no factions are removed for Soviets / OE.

There are only a few things that are hardcoded, both we found walk-around for most.

[ford_prefect]

No, no, no factions are removed for Soviets / OE.

There are only a few things that are hardcoded, both we found walk-around for most.

rizz so sorry for getting off topic but what tank is that?
the one that looks like a piece of cheese (2nd left)

[luz777]

Goes from left to right..

T-70, KV-2, T-90, Medical Truck, T-34/76

[ford_prefect]

Goes from left to right..

T-70, KV-2, T-90, Medical Truck, T-34/76

thanks I have seen that thing in Red Orchestra in the map "Arad" I call it the block of cheese the seven year old cut 

[Loupblanc]

 Don't laugh about the KV-2 :p
 My only regret is KV-2 made it into the game (It was
 phased out around 1941-42) and the KV-85 didn't :p
 (And the all-sexy KV-8). However... if you think the
 KV-2 looks like a block of cheese, look at this puppy

 http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_C5UAXb0bEic/Su1ziMG5h1I/AAAAAAAAETw/7xtT3BEXP5Y/s1600-h/1-144+PzDpt+Bishop%280%29.JPG
 
 It's called the Bishop Mk1
 
 The bottom is 1x KV2 + 2 bishop Mk1 for size comparison

[ford_prefect]

LOL I use the kv-2 in Red Orchestra its got a big cannon on it ill give the "Cheese" tank that

[BurroDiablo]

Bishop was tiny compared to the KV-2, but the Hull Size to Turret size ratio was a lot more ridiculous

KV-85 would be pretty pointless since we already have the much more common T-34/85 in. It was basically a stopgap tank between the KV-1 and IS tanks. It was already obsolete by the time it was fielded in late 1943 due to the emergance of Panthers and Tigers and production was cancelled in favour of the IS-2. I know its nice to see these rare tanks in action, but they are rare for a reason

That said, KV-2 serves its purpose in game, even if it was very rare.

[Loupblanc]

 - KV2 is a 152mm on a KV1 (Tiger)
 - Bishop is a 25pds on a Cromwell (Sherman)
 
 - I WANT to see Kv1 in-game :p How about in campaign?
 Replacing IS2
 - Well T34 was built in such huge numbers it IS the soviet
 tank Hope you make it so yummy in-game we'll all HAVE
 to overload on it
 - IS2 : Built by Kirov industries, it's thus by default the
 successor of the KV line Sorta.
 - KV2... ... WTF is it doing in-game? About as rare
 as King Tigers, obsolete, and outclassed by 1944+ I'm
 just about certain there were practically none left by then
 (Finnish killed 'em all)
 Gimme SU76 and ZSU37 and SU122 instead!

 SU122 would be a fairly awsome replacement choice, no?
 Not rare, right period, fairly common, and reloads faster
 Plus it's the ultra-common T34 hull

 But, yes, the KV2 is a fetish hull... so... meh
 (hint : So is the KV-1/85/8).
 - Why no Soviet flamethrowing tank? QQ

 * Yes, the KV-2 has a 152mm. That's a BIG cannon

 * What are chances of making the ISU152 into a hybrid
 puppy? Like I've beggeg/requested everywhere?

[bastex]

maybe im wrong wasnt this topic about the russian campain ?

i have some suggestions could we get the t35 in the start of the campain

but indeed kv2 is obsolete maybe put in the t35 instead

yes yes replace a crap tank whit an  other !

[luz777]

I actually really like the KV-2, dont really know why, just always thought it looked cool...in a weird not-actually-that-cool way.

Anyhow it'll be good for the early war campaign parts.
I think that reward units will be said early war units that will come when the campaign does.

[BurroDiablo]

maybe im wrong wasnt this topic about the russian campain ?

i have some suggestions could we get the t35 in the start of the campain

but indeed kv2 is obsolete maybe put in the t35 instead

Wait... the KV-2 is obsolete? And the T-35 isn't? No matter how much I would I'd love to see it ingame too, you can't deny that it was a spectacular failure and would serve no real purpose other than an infantry slaughterer... one hit from a Pak and it would go up in smoke. KV-2 has purpose, it is a heavy artillery tank... plus, it had near impenetrable armour for the time.

[Aouch]

I actually really like the KV-2

Me too! 

One tank for campaign-porpuse could maybe be the BT-7. Predecessor
to the T34. And also used by the Finns to build their BT-42 assault gun. (hint, hint ...)

@ Loupblanc: Finally I got an argument against your uber-ISU152: Giving it artillery-capabilities would make the KV-2 kinda useless, don't you think?

BTW: What the hell is "OE"? object editor for modding CoH?

[Loupblanc]

 - T26/BT were morphed into the T34,yea
 - Oooh, BT42! Good idea! Xcept it wouldn't be soviet
 - I don't want ISU152 to be uber, although it IS end of
 doctrine, it is UNIQUE, whereas the
 KV2 is mid of tree and can have 3 of them. 3x 152mm
 (1939/1940 vs 1x 1943+ 152mm... it better be uber
 I want it multipurpose. Tiger is 9 all scores, like pershing
 can kill infantry AND tanks.  Like IS2 ought to, really.
 Xcept the ISU can shoot off to 13 miles and had bigger
 caliber than IS and no ammo (20) taking 45min to
 refill

  Arty ISU152 makes KV2 obsolete, pointless and useless
 like ... How105mm makes callioppe, P47 bombing runs
 useless??

 If it's 1 vs 3, it better have something going for it.
 Right now, it's apparently just a big JagPanther
 (Fast firing AP shooter)
 (88mm vs 152mm... ehh... noooo)

 : T35 oh wow. Amusing tank, white elephant, though.
 Don't add that, please. Lol. Too rare?
 : Well, actually, in 1943, if there'll be a KV2, it ought
 to be alone and not 3x pack. Where the ISU152 came
 into packs of 5... something wrong here
 : OE : OE is the logical continuation of WE, PE... of course
 !

 : Small note about ISU152, giving it arty capabilities,
 yes, but with abyssal reload time. No barrages, like Priest
 (6 shots)(Open cockpit, large dedicated reload crew)

[bastex]

loup now your asking for it where is my ducktape ...

ive bin thinking about tank riders you get some great inf and a t34 why would you need a tank that you can build twice from the same mp ?