How mechanised should the new Ostheer be?

[Headlock]

Basically, should the new Ostheer be closer to Wehr or PE?

The ostfront was an unusual scenario, with massive mechanised warfare mixed in with brutal, slow moving infantry orientated warfare.

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[Paciat]

Mix both of course.
I dont want to Ostheer to be static like wehrmacht.

I want a whole Tier I foreign. Volks like infantry with LMG upgrade, 47mm AT gun, non german scout car/motorbike

There should be a light MG34 squad (light=no recrew bug) that just like PE MP44 can be an upgrade or buildable.
A quad halftrack will replace Puma.
PzIII will be an upgunned Hothkiss gun with PZIV armor.
StugIII should replace StugIV.
I want an expensive Tiger I (1 on the field) and JagdpanzerIV with Panther gun upgrade. Both will replace a Panther.

[Werwolf]

Both.

Mobile enough to blitz and counterattack, but static enough in order to adapt quickly to a defensive strategy and hold the line if need be.

The OH shouldn't be as spammable as the Soviets are, but they SHOULD be able to attain veterancy faster. 

[wordsmith]

Mix obviously

Mechanized assault force in early game (like PE):
- infantry
- halftracks
- PzII, III
- guns

And defensive force in late game with some heavy units (like Wehr):
- Tiger I
- Elefant
- Bunkers and other defensive structures
- specialized infantry (stormpioneers, gebirgsjaeger...)

... just like it was in actual WW2-EF history

[Paciat]

Mix obviously

Mechanized assault force in early game (like PE):
- infantry
...
And defensive force in late game with some heavy units (like Wehr):
...
- Bunkers and other defensive structures
...

Ill also add that a light mobile MG-34 squad (no ammo cost) and late game buildable Panthet turrets on bunkers would fit this idea perfectlly.
It would also cause no "no recrew bug" too.

[wordsmith]

Ill also add that a light mobile MG-34 squad (no ammo cost) and late game buildable Panthet turrets on bunkers would fit this idea perfectlly.
It would also cause no "no recrew bug" too.

I wouldn't say it better. I will just add that for Ostheer to be distinguished from PE&Wehr, it needs quick available light armors (PzII at same time as T70/90 and PzIII before or at least same time as T34) as those were presented on EF from very begin. Then I just want some nice doctrines, f.e. one offensive, one defensive and one special and Ostheer is ready to Rock'n'Roll :-)

[Akalonor]

the panther bunkers are called Pantherums I believe, they have them in BK mod.

[vietlord]

some tanks were dead for move (over repairing, lacking good metal, no more engine, no gas moreover) so dead tank with a special different image maybe in digged ground, BUT with a valid turret

that might seem a graphic change with tifferent tanks and powerfighting turrets

[Aouch]

some tanks were dead for move (over repairing, lacking good metal, no more engine, no gas moreover) so dead tank with a special different image maybe in digged ground, BUT with a valid turret

That seems to be a great ability for Ostheer, if possible with the CoH-engine.

I'm thinking about the following:
Ostheer has a special unit (may it be Repair-Pioneers or a Bergepanzer III) which has the ability to "repair" a wreck like the PE-Bergetiger but instead of fully repairing it, the vehicle/tank will not regain its mobility but function like a defensive cannon-tower (kind like the Panther-turret in BK-mod). However, using this ability should only be possible with tanks etc. so there won't be any Kettenkrad-defense-tower. 

[nbeerbower]

Mix obviously

Mechanized assault force in early game (like PE):
- infantry
- halftracks
- PzII, III
- guns

And defensive force in late game with some heavy units (like Wehr):
- Tiger I
- Elefant
- Bunkers and other defensive structures
- specialized infantry (stormpioneers, gebirgsjaeger...)

... just like it was in actual WW2-EF history

Agreed. I think it would make for an interesting twist to be slightly mechanized early in the game, and turn a little more defensive later.

[Akalonor]

I have a question.... why does it say " 'New' Ostheer ", if it will be the first Ostheer

[vietlord]

Agreed. I think it would make for an interesting twist to be slightly mechanized early in the game, and turn a little more defensive later.

yes early mech would be good to fend sov waves but uneasy to overcap (but harass and turn the tide)


on my osteer try i tried to put offensive, defend and desperate in the 3 docts