Unit suggestion thread:

[Newbie.]

For some odd reason.. I want to see a High-cost Brandenburger Unit inside the Ostheer.. Possibly 5 men, Armed with Suppressed Walther PP's and can upgrade to 2 MG34's or 5 Suppresed MP-34's... And can do most ablitys while claoked..

[Blackbishop]

Some minor things. Let the Ostheer have Stuka's (planes) to bomb accurate.
MG 42 is too heavy to fire accurate while standing or crouching. Do you want to make the MG 34 instead of the MG42?
I had also an Idea about an junker-52 which you can land and it can make some reinforcemens. Like the commando's of the brits.
They also need the normal Panzer abwehr Kanone the wehrmacht has.
If I have more idea's i'll post 'em.

[Lolman112]

MG 42 is too heavy to fire accurate while standing or crouching. Do you want to make the MG 34 instead of the MG42?

MG 34 (240 man. 3 pop)
3 ppl one gunner with deployable mg 34. MG 34 has no tripod (never seen) but a bipod. Deployable on the ground if proned or just deploy in building or on sandbags etc like CoD.

Flakvierling (400 man. 4 pop)
just the normal flakvierling but than trainable from the tank fabrik or how you ar gonna call it. The flakvierling was called Wirbelwind

Jagdpanther (600 man. 5 pop)
Very powerful tank destroyer with a mg42 on top (upradable).

Raupenschlepper Ost (RSO) 450 man. 3 man
A lil halftrack which can carry pak guns. After Wehrmacht experienced its first winter on the Russian front, the lack of a vehicle capable to deal with the extremely difficult terrain as a result of the muddy periods before and after the winter became evident.

They also had the RSO/PaK 40 just a panzer without weaponery but they put a Pak on it.

As Light tank you can use the Panzer II. (260 man. 3 pop.)
it was fast and they used it in the blitzkrieg. It has weak armour.

[GamblerSK]

has no tripod (never seen) but a bipod.

http://sk.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%BAbor:MG34.jpg
 

[Ghost]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0c/Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-B00456,_%C3%9Cbung_des_Regiments_Gro%C3%9Fdeutschland,_am_MG_34.jpg
http://www.axishistory.com/fileadmin/user_upload/m/mg34-aa-tripod2.jpg

Flakvierling (400 man. 4 pop)
just the normal flakvierling but than trainable from the tank fabrik or how you ar gonna call it. The flakvierling was called Wirbelwind

buildable wirbelwind?

Jagdpanther (600 man. 5 pop)
Very powerful tank destroyer with a mg42 on top (upradable).

jagdpanther is already a call-in for PE and for 5 pop?! 

MG 42 is too heavy to fire accurate while standing or crouching. Do you want to make the MG 34 instead of the MG42?

mg34 was heavier (12 kg) than mg42 (10 kg).

[Aouch]

MG 34 (240 man. 3 pop)
3 ppl one gunner with deployable mg 34. MG 34 has no tripod (never seen) but a bipod. Deployable on the ground if proned or just deploy in building or on sandbags etc like CoD.

Not possible. There aren't any animations like that in CoH.
It can function like the LMG42 and that's how it should work. A dedicated MG-team would be stupid, because OH will not be able to recrew heavy weapons.

Flakvierling (400 man. 4 pop)
just the normal flakvierling but than trainable from the tank fabrik or how you ar gonna call it. The flakvierling was called Wirbelwind

You want Wirbelwind buildable and for 4pop? Are you serious?!

Jagdpanther (600 man. 5 pop)
Very powerful tank destroyer with a mg42 on top (upradable).

Already part of PE. And 5pop is just ... ehm... funny. 

Raupenschlepper Ost (RSO) 450 man. 3 man
A lil halftrack which can carry pak guns.

Not possible because there aren't any animations to lock a gun behind an artillery tractor.

They also had the RSO/PaK 40 just a panzer without weaponery but they put a Pak on it.

RSO isn't a panzer. It hadn't any armor at all. Nonetheless a rather good suggestion, since a normal PaK40 for OH would be stupid in different manners (recrew-bug, weight of the carriage etc.) Therefore a mobile variant would suit much better.

As Light tank you can use the Panzer II. (260 man. 3 pop.)

I think there will be the PzKpfW. II Ausf. L "Luchs", since the DEVs already posted a WIP-screen of it. 
However, again 3pop isn't realistic, since even HTs have 4pop.
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[Lolman112]

Wow 2 out of 6... xD
well, first i thought the pop is how much crew it had, so i based on that.
About the wirbelwind: You can make it expensiver like the one which you can call and much fuel OR you can reduce it's firepower and armour.
I wonder why the Ostwind is such a strong vehicle. I dont think they used Ostwinds that much in the WWII, and if they where strong, why they didn't.

Than the RSO/Pak is just fine. I think it has 2 members to man the gun. Maybe 3. And one driver. The manpower... you may guess 'cuz thats not my thing . I have seen a turnable plateau where the head of the pak 40 stands on, so it can turn the full 360' degrees.

And yeey, finally a panzer II in the game
I am thinking about upgrades. I hate upgrades, but thats not the matter (only for me it is ) but IF you really want a upgrade for the Panzer II you should make a panzer II only with a canon and as upgrade an mg 34 (or Mg 42 dunno what it had) also in the.. hull? dunno the word for it. That thing what you can turn on top of the tank xD.


I have something more. How about the Wespe? Artillery tank
Or, I think you gonna like it: the sturmtiger. Massive tank xD

Also, many of the troops on the ostfront where Elite. so don't make poor troops like volksgrenadiers (but i like them though). It is smart (i think) to make panzerfausts like the volks..) But make them 30 ammu.. Or/and make anti tank demolition charges for infantry. They used em often.

Hope its handy what i said

[Ghost]

Or, I think you gonna like it: the sturmtiger. Massive tank xD

lordrommel is gonna hate you for that 

the point about the wirbelwind is that it is already in PE and that there are other anti-air options like a flak on a halftruck or a mobile flak 30 (look for lord rommel's old concept).
wespe was already suggested many times. and sturmtiger wasn't used on eastern front vs. red army but the smaller version "sturmpanzer IV" was used.

[Lolman112]

why is he gonna hate me xD

[Blackbishop]

Because that unit just fought at the Warsaw uprising and not in the real Eastern Front... However that could be a reward unit for PE .

[TacticalNuke]

That would be awesome! But I'm sure they have better things to do.

[Aouch]

Also, many of the troops on the ostfront where Elite. so don't make poor troops like volksgrenadiers (but i like them though). It is smart (i think) to make panzerfausts like the volks..) But make them 30 ammu.. Or/and make anti tank demolition charges for infantry. They used em often.

That's a point where I fully agree with you. The Ostheer shouldn't have any 'weak' infantry-units like Volx. IF there are any, that should be foreign units.
I could imagine the classic role of the pios being taken by a foreign unit, which is able to build the base-structures and light defenses.
Later on, there would be 'Sturmpioniere', who are basicly Elite. In every matter.
Normal infantry should be as strong as Vet2 Grens and their anti-armour weaponry should be a 'Hafthohlmine', a mine which is thrown at a vehicle and then detonates with a massive potential to kill the whole crew in it and therefore taking out that vehicle.

To your other suggestions: I don't think the DEVs will add vehicles like Jagdpanther to the OH, since it's already used by PE. There are many other possibilities, which aren't copy'n'paste-style.

[Lolman112]

Thx!
and about that last thing, i dont play PE much. Played it like, 2 times. So i didn't know that they have that.
Otherwise: sorry

I had something in mind like:
Einsatz truppen. These were SS guys who followed the army and they were executioners. (But himmler and hitler thought it wasn't going fast enough so they made those camps).

Ersatz truppen. Training troops. Not finished with training and put on the battlefield to gain some experience OR it where Fallschirmjägers on the ground (I forgot which one).

Feldgendarmerie: Military Police -> even when germany was harshly losing the war, the Feldgendarmerie was still doing his job. Execute deserters etc.

Germans on the eastern front were well trained but less supplied. Sometimes they were scavengers (or how you spell it) They usually wanted the PPsh from the russians. The germans on the eastern front made also use from the Trenches of the russians and made own trenches.
Also the machineguns where lethal in the trenches. They were attacked day and night untill they got reinforcements or get other commands. So many waves of foes, u really have to have strong pillboxes (bunkers)

Maybe you can do something with it, maybe not...

[SirKuggorna]

How about the Dirlewanger brigade? A troop formed from murderers, rapists and other criminals. Known from it's brutal and cruel actions at Warsaw uprising these soldiers will fight to death.

P.S. If someone gets offended by this suggestion, it was partially a joke.

[cephalos]

  No no no no - They were murderers, animals not soliders- killing women and children you call fighting to death? Killing POWs?

P.S. If someone gets offended by this suggestion, it was partially a joke.

Sometimes it's better to stay quiet than joke.