Unit suggestion thread:

[Tico_1990]

Giving a unit the name "SS blabla" might be offensive or even illegal in certain countries. Because of this, any unit which is included that might be based on SS units will not be named as such.
Cheers

[Lolman112]

There's a whole thread dedicated to the first question. It turned into a flame war. It was hilarious to read!

Can you send me the link to that

Giving a unit the name "SS blabla" might be offensive or even illegal in certain countries.

I know, thats why you can call it StoBtruppen other something. I only asked why the SS was bad. But everyone has another opinion. So dont post it here if you have comment

[TacticalNuke]

No clue how to do that, (still slightly forum illiterate). Look in the Ostheer suggestion section, page two, "the SS"

Hope that helps. Sorry if it doesn't! Lol

Test:
http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3561.0

Hah! Figured it out! I'm so smart... *cough* (fail!)...
Who said that?

[One-eye]

There's a whole thread dedicated to the first question. It turned into a flame war. It was hilarious to read!

Can you send me the link to that

Giving a unit the name "SS blabla" might be offensive or even illegal in certain countries.

I know, thats why you can call it StoBtruppen other something. I only asked why the SS was bad. But everyone has another opinion. So dont post it here if you have comment

Ok let me try to break this down for you a little. The whole war on the Eastern Front is a very touchy subject in general, mainly because you had two of the most evil empires of the time fighting a war for annihilation.  Basically, whoever won, the innocent on both sides would suffer incalculably (and did).  Therefore a certain amount of cultural sensitivity is necessary when exploring this topic. 

While two of your suggestions were possible (Ersatztruppen and Feldgendarmerie) they didn't fit in well with the overall Ostheer concept. 

The real issue that caused the backlash was the idea of including Einsatzgruppen.  Now i'm not sure how much you know about Einsatzgruppen but you have two basic problems with including them.  Firstly Einsatzgruppen  was a rear echelon unit, not a front line combat unit and therefore wouldn't be included in actual fighting.  Secondly Einsatzgruppen can easily be categorised as one of the worst manifestations of the Nazi regime.  The things these people did beggars all belief, evil is not a word to be used lightly (especially in the context of the EF) and it barely covers what these people did.  If your unsure about why then simply go onto "Google images" turn off the safe search and google Einsatzgruppen.  I think you'll agree that pictures speak louder than words. 

Hope this helps you understand why this is such an issue.

[Lolman112]

I study History and specialized me in the 20th century (that I am 16 doesn't matter). I know that this subject if very sensitive, this is an suggestion thread, so I thought I say it and if it is wrong, ok, but than just throw it in the garbagebag and start judging the next suggestion. But they kinda tear me apart. Just forget what I said.

And why are the Sovjets not bad. That conscripts where also just peasants and fathers who forced into the army. And the discription: Good as canon fodder (they are really good ) but thats also kinda... i don't know the word.

So whatever, just go on with the next suggestions ok? (or go on waiting ) I know I don't have to dare to put another suggestion here

I think you had so many suggestions that everything you hear is double.
If you think this a little offensive, sorry about that but I'm not really good in english

[Toorstain]

Ok, just to move on:

What about a single unarmed (or just with a crappy smg) soldier who can use panzerfaust ability for free (or for a muni cost). It could be an incorporation of the volkssturm to Ostheer. They could be something that you buy from your mainbase. They could be really good at ambushing, but have very poor armor and HP. Worse than conscripts

I understand that blobbing these suckers could destroy the game, but I think the base idea is kinda cool.

[One-eye]

Ok, just to move on:

What about a single unarmed (or just with a crappy smg) soldier who can use panzerfaust ability for free (or for a muni cost). It could be an incorporation of the volkssturm to Ostheer. They could be something that you buy from your mainbase. They could be really good at ambushing, but have very poor armor and HP. Worse than conscripts

I understand that blobbing these suckers could destroy the game, but I think the base idea is kinda cool.

You see i had considered something similar, a doctrine ability that allowed all infantry to use a panzerfaust for a muni cost like the volks squads.  The problem with one man units is you have to give them extra health or camouflage otherwise they end up being killed by random explosions too easily. 

[cephalos]

This is fine idea, one man armed with panzerfaust. Mybe make him able to hide in cover and buildings.

[Lolman112]

panzerfaust man, nice If i where you i should give him the camouflage and (tank) ambush vehicle. Or, maybe thats not so smart, becouse if you spam 100 of em you can win the game..

[Newbie.]

Well, you'd have to slightly add more power to the panzerfaust to make it work, but nice idea :-)

[Aouch]

Sorry, but I don't like the idea.
Volkssturm would destroy the whole Ostheer, in my opinion.

Add such things to the Red Army, but not OH. After all, every infantry unit (as long as it's not a 'Foreign Unit') should be in some matter 'Elite' and not a single 'cannonfodder'-unit should make its way into the final faction. 

[Seeme]

But remember, the Name says Elite, not necessary there fighting skills.

[HyperSniper999]

I'm fine with Volksstrum.

Also, not all the Ostheer was elite. Sure, all the quality stuff went to the east, but the entire force there wasn't all SS.

[Blackbishop]

Not all SS was elite.

Wehrmacht had elite units too. Not just the SS. Besides Hitler sent his best stuff there: Own veterans, equipment, allies' best soldiers.

IMO Volksstrum = Volks in EF battlegrounds... I don't think that unit should be made with that stats, would require a lot of micro. I prefer something like a spy/saboteur/wehrwolf commando(I know they were most propaganda but KCH are worse in that aspect ).

[Lolman112]

allies' best soldiers.

Best soldiers from the allies. Which one? Italy xD. The Italian soldiers are not really as hard as the wehrmacht .

(but I agree with u)