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mobile 88's
« on: December 01, 2009, 12:55:56 AM »
Well I realized that no dev posted a response to my idea of adding a mobile 88. You guys have not really started on the Ostheer really yet right, right? :(
I would like to see a thing or two I helped to think up in the mod if you guys can :)
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Re: mobile 88's
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2009, 01:37:47 AM »
Wait what am I generally discussing here?
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Re: mobile 88's
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2009, 02:43:24 AM »
Either I've got deja vue or theres another topic with exactly the same name about 10 posts down this page...

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Re: mobile 88's
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2009, 10:58:54 AM »

 - ! You're turning into a Loup! Ahahah ;) Raving rambling ;)
 - Well, Ostheer would have grenadiers, Tiger, Panther,
 Elephant, Pz4, StuG, Pz3, Pz2, and... er... 88 yea :)
 Mebbe Stukas . And Finnish, they GOT to have Finns ;)
 And... Yougoslavs, and...
 - Deja vu is french for 'already seen' :)
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Re: mobile 88's
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2009, 02:48:50 PM »
Quote from: Loupblanc on December 01, 2009, 10:58:54 AM

 - ! You're turning into a Loup! Ahahah ;) Raving rambling ;)
 - Well, Ostheer would have grenadiers, Tiger, Panther,
 Elephant, Pz4, StuG, Pz3, Pz2, and... er... 88 yea :)
 Mebbe Stukas . And Finnish, they GOT to have Finns ;)
 And... Yougoslavs, and...
 - Deja vu is french for 'already seen' :)
yeah but if you add all that there is like almost no difference from the Wher. or PE adding a mobile 88 into the Ostheer would totally change the inner making of the OShteer making people want to play them.
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Re: mobile 88's
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2009, 04:11:24 PM »
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- ! You're turning into a Loup! Ahahah ;) Raving rambling ;)
 - Well, Ostheer would have grenadiers, Tiger, Panther,
 Elephant, Pz4, StuG, Pz3, Pz2, and... er... 88 yea :)
 Mebbe Stukas . And Finnish, they GOT to have Finns ;)
 And... Yougoslavs, and...
 - Deja vu is french for 'already seen'


and if we make a new mod that includes the Russians?

that would be awesome (:
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Re: mobile 88's
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2009, 10:26:51 PM »
 - The problem is that the wehr are pretty 'german' already
 and that tiger/panthers/88, etc, are all 'must-have' if it's
 to be representative of the eastern front. I'm all for mobile
 88s as it works well with the weaker tanks (Pz2, Pz3)...
 Just like the americans AT57 and Sherman/M10 combo.

 I don't think people would want to play Ostheer purely for
 the mobile 88, though. I think other-country flavor is just
 perfect, though, for adding to this faction. Make it different
 yknow?

 - A new mod that includes the russians?
 Well, sure. If you have the talent. I certainly have enough
 vision for it :)

 But one issue is that it would split the community. Would
 be nice if we could have this one mod feel just perfect for
 everyone, yea?
« Last Edit: December 01, 2009, 10:34:05 PM by Loupblanc »
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Re: mobile 88's
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2009, 11:37:46 PM »
(I don't think people would want to play Ostheer purely for
 the mobile 88, though. I think other-country flavor is just
 perfect, though, for adding to this faction. Make it different
 yknow?)
lol OK I would also like to see Romanians and Italians in the mod, but adding Finland......It's just doesn't make ANY sense.........I mean I think I have seen a map of Berlin on a video, so lol having the Fins as support in the Battle of Berlin would NOT make any sense at all. Adding Romania and Italy though would make SOME sense I would like to see them
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Re: mobile 88's
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2009, 06:46:27 PM »
Quote from: ford_prefect on December 01, 2009, 11:37:46 PM
Adding Romania and Italy though would make SOME sense I would like to see them.

Excuse me if my WW2 Eastern front history is a little hazy, but did the Italians actually participate against Russia? Romanians I can see for sure but I'm unsure if the Italians were involved in the East. Can a history buff please enlighten me?
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Re: mobile 88\'s
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2009, 10:24:28 PM »

 - Yes, Italy participated greatly in the Soviet assault.
 And are part of the reason army Center desintegrated, as
 they couldn't hold their part of the front :)
 Hitler wanted to bolster their line with German troops, but
 that didn't happen... thus... ;)

 - !!!! Finland was perhaps *THE* staunchest ally that
 German had against the Soviet Union. Rumanians gave up
 in late 1944 when they were overrun. Italy gave up in
 late 1943!! As for Berlin, that's late 1945. You won't see
 any half-rifle conscripts, T70, T90, or T34/76 (40, 41 or
 43 turrets) and probably no T34/75. No SU85 (They were
 SU100 then)(And didn't participate either way). ISU152,
 yes. over a thousand of them.

 ... No Sherman 75, no M8, no ... dude, list goes on and on.
 Should we make a call to exclude EVERY vehicle and race
 (British and americans didn't participate on crushing Berlin)
 from COH? :)

 Yknow, there's a difference.
 
 Wehr in Berlin :) Pref 'defensive' lol.
 OstHeer - EAST ARMY - Didn't exist then. So by your
 logic we shouldn't add finnish in OstHeer because they
 were not in the fight at Berlin... (Nor was the OstHeer
 anyhow) :)

 ... To that, let me add no Ferdinands or Elephants... :)
 Maus and King Tigers, yes, though.

Post Merge: December 02, 2009, 10:39:03 PM

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Front_(World_War_II)
 T34/76 is pre-1944. (1943 is latest just about) then they
 all switched to T34/85's. The SU85s switched to SU100's.
 
 Most fought until late 1944. Italy converted to a republic
 in 1943, but fought on till 1944 as well.

 The two principal belligerent powers were Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. The Soviet-Finnish Continuation War may be considered the northern flank of the Eastern Front. In addition, the joint German-Finnish operations across the northernmost Finnish-Soviet border and in the Murmansk region are also considered part of the Eastern Front.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2009, 10:39:03 PM by Loupblanc »
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Re: mobile 88\'s
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2009, 11:06:52 PM »
Quote from: Loupblanc on December 02, 2009, 10:24:28 PM
... No Sherman 75, no M8, no ... dude, list goes on and on.
 Should we make a call to exclude EVERY vehicle and race
 (British and americans didn't participate on crushing Berlin)
 from COH? :)
Exactly. EF is fully compatible with vCoH, so the US/Brits will be able to fight with the Red Army on one side.
Taking this into account, the Ostheer (Loup is right here, it's named the Ostheer -> Eastern Army, which doesn't involve any hint to a "German-only" faction.) having Finnish support seems to me just like a very, very minor "problem".  ;)
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Re: mobile 88's
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2009, 11:53:39 PM »

 See! See! Listen to Aouch! He's right!!! :D

 Plus, no Hotchkiss were in Berlin, I can assure you of THAT!
 So they ought to be purged from PE. And... (Rants on and
 on about all other units and factions to wipe out from Vanilla
 COH because they were not in the final soviet-Berlin assault)

 ;)
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Re: mobile 88's
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2009, 11:57:42 PM »
(Finland was perhaps *THE* staunchest ally that
 German had against the Soviet Union)
dude it just does not make any sense to add Finland as a "tech unit" or just as a unit. I mean YES they did fight in the war (no they were not Germany's most important ally (did ya wiki that loup ;D) if anything it was Romania, Romania gave Germany most of their oil during the war. Or Italy sense they were able to start the war in Africa and were slightly able to try to hold the Sea
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Re: mobile 88's
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2009, 10:18:28 AM »

 Ooh forgot about the oil. But, militarily, it was finnish who
 were most eager to jump into the fray and kick soviet butt ;)

 They *GOTTA* be in the OstHeer as call-in troops, meh.
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Re: mobile 88's
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2009, 02:44:16 PM »
Quote from: Loupblanc on December 03, 2009, 10:18:28 AM

 Ooh forgot about the oil. But, militarily, it was finnish who
 were most eager to jump into the fray and kick soviet butt ;)

 They *GOTTA* be in the OstHeer as call-in troops, meh.
OK fine well if there a call in that's just not sane. Making them a tech tree unit does not make any sense, they should have one or MAYBE two units in the Ostheer itself
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