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Offline Das Taub

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Yet Another Ostheer Proposal (getting sick of these?)
« on: October 29, 2009, 11:20:32 AM »
This has ideas borrowed from everyone, as imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

I use trucks for the Ostheer, as mobility was key on the Russian front, and a Static HQ would be quickly left behind, or overwhelmed in the fluid mobile battles.

Ost Command Truck
Main troop deployment building, deploys starting troops.

OstPioneer: heavy four man troops, equipped with MP 40s.
Upgrades: Flammenwerfer 42
                 Bangalore Torpedo
                 Nahverteidigungswaffe Grenade Pistol.                                  http://www.custermen.net/nahvert/nah.htm [nofollow]

Kübelwagen with MG 34. Can replace MG 34 with Solothurn S-18/1000 20 mm Anti-Tank Cannon.

Schützen Truck
Main Production truck, makes infantry and light tanks.

Landser Squad: five man squad, Kar 98 K.
Upgrades: MG 34
                 Panzerbüchse 39 AT Rifle

120mm Granatwerfer 42: with 3 man crew.

Panzer II L Luchs: a light tank with the overcharged engine ability

Sdkfz 251/22 Pakwagen: a powerful tank destroyer, though with very weak armour, and the ability to camouflage itself.

Panzer Assault Truck
Deploys tanks and troop halftracks.

PanzerJäger Squad: four men, with 2 Panzerbüchse 39 AT rifles
Upgrades: Replace AT Rifles with Panzershrecks
                 Add Panzerfaust 250

Sdkfz 7: Unarmoured halftrack which can carry troops and guns.

Sdkfz 251/21 Drilling: a 251 half track fitted with three 15mm heavy machine guns, used for Anti-Air duties.

Panzer III Ausf J (Early): Main German battle tank of the early war years. Obsolete by 1944, it still soldiered on, and gained a reputation for reliability.

Jagdpanzer IV 70: a heavily modified Stug IV, the Jagdpanzer IV has thicker armour and the deadly 75mm L70 Panther gun. can fire precision Tread Breaker rounds.

Nashorn/Hornisse: mobile AT Gun fitted with the devastating long 88mm PaK 43, capable of killing any Russian tank, even the new Stalin II. it's weaknesses are thin armour and slow speed. can 'Lock Down' to increase it's Range and RoF.

Armoury Truck
All research upgrades come from this truck.

Armoured Cab: increases the health of the Sdkfz 7.

Surprise strike: Infantry can camouflage themselves

APCBC: Increases the AT of the Nashorn/Hornisse

Only one of these abilities can be researched. Either
50mm KwK 38 L60 – Triples the AT ability of the Panzer III
75mm KwK 37 L24 – Triples the HE ability of the Panzer III

Doctrines


Army Group North
Army Group North was involved in the 900 day siege of Leningrad, and this doctrine emphasizes artillery and static defences.


Artillery Support

Pre-ranged Artillery: Allows mortars and artillery to go on overwatch.
The Germans had a sneaky habit of pre-ranging their artillery on their own positions, and abandoning them just before the Russians overran them, then unleashing a storm of fire on the surprised Russians.

105mm LeFh18: Construct a 105mm Howitzer.
The 105mm was the standard German field artillery piece, and over 6986 leFH 18s and 10265 leFH 18/40s were manufactured during the war, adding to those already in service in 1939.

Fire in the Sky
: calls in a Panzerwerfer 42 Maultier Armoured rocket launcher.
The Panzerwerfer 42 was an armoured half-tracked rocket launcher, similar to the Katyusha. It mounted 10 150mm rockets behind the armoured cab. Around 300 were produced

Static Defences

S Mines: Allows Pioneers to construct Anti-Infantry S-Mines, known by the allies as ‘Bouncing Betty’s’.

Dugout: OstPioneers can construct dugouts, which are part slit-trench, part bunker. They can be armed with various weapons, like the MG34, or the 37mm Pak 36.

Ostwallturm
: OstPioneers can build Panther turret Bunkers.
The Panther Turret bunker was first built in Russia, using the turrets of battle-damaged Panthers. Soon the design was adopted in the west, using turrets diverted from tank production.

Army Group Centre
Army Group Centre was the scene of the largest tank battles on the Russian front

Luftwaffe Operations

FlaK Nests: Construct a Quad 2cm flak Bunker.
To protect their flak guns, and yet still allow them to provide fire support, the Germans would place 2cm quad anti-aircraft guns on the roofs, attics, or the top floors of buildings. This tactic allowed the guns to fire at Soviet aircraft as well as providing direct firepower against assaulting infantry. By sand bagging and fortifying the house, the Flak Nest was protected against all but heavy calibre high explosives. 

Fighter Interception: Me109 fighters intercept enemy attack planes.

Stuka Strike: The Feared JU87 Stuka dive bombers strike from the sky, pinning all enemies within a certain area.

Panzer Vor!

Improvised Armour: all German tanks gain schurzen, increasing defence against infantry attack

Funklepanzer: the Armoury Truck can now build the Borgward BIV Demo Tank.
The B IV Radio controlled Demo Charge was designed so that it could be driven by an on board crew man within a safe distance of its intended target. It was then radio controlled for the remainder of the distance to the target where the explosive pack on the front could be released before the vehicle was withdrawn and the explosives detonated.

Jagdpanzer Ferdinand: call in a single Jagdpanzer P Ferdinand/Elefant.

Army Group South
Involved in the battles for Sevastopol, Rostov and Stalingrad, This doctrine is best for urban fighting

Flame Support

Burn them out!: OstPioneers get two flame throwers.

Flamm Bombs: equips all infantry with slow burn flame grenades (See Fallschirmjager in OF)

Flammpanzer III: call in a Flammpanzer III Flame Tank

Building busters

HESH: guns are armed with High Explosive Squash Head rounds, which are more effective against buildings.

Demo Charges
: all infantry units can now lay demolition charges.

SturmPanzer IV Brummbär: calls in a powerful Brummbär assault gun.

The Ostheer can capture and use Russian Weapons (there are many thousands of cases of captured Russian weapons being used by the Germans, take the 120mm mortar for example. It was so good; the Germans copied it and used it themselves!)

Farther updates to come.

all suggestions are most welcomed
« Last Edit: January 13, 2010, 12:41:25 AM by Das Taub »

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Re: Yet Another Ostheer Proposal (getting sick of these?)
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2009, 11:54:13 AM »
No, I'm not getting sick of new Ostheer Proposals, Concepts, whatever. But by now, most of them are very similiar.

It seems there's tendency towards a mix of PE/Brits, with the most common suggested vehicles are PzKpfW II, III and the Panzerjäger Elefant/Ferdinand.
(Look at my concept inspired by Lord Rommel, it's pretty similiar.)

What your concept need, is some buildable heavy tanks.
« Last Edit: October 29, 2009, 11:57:39 AM by Aouch »
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Re: Yet Another Ostheer Proposal (getting sick of these?)
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2009, 10:49:05 PM »
lol I think people got sick of these  ;D

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Re: Yet Another Ostheer Proposal (getting sick of these?)
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2010, 12:41:58 AM »
Proposal has been Updated with several new units and minor improvements.

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Re: Yet Another Ostheer Proposal (getting sick of these?)
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2010, 01:14:19 AM »
Doctrines are good, but you need to work more on the faction itself, especially with the armory. Otherwise, good job!

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Re: Yet Another Ostheer Proposal (getting sick of these?)
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2010, 04:27:45 AM »
What would be totaly wild to see is the development of the "Maus Tank" which historicaly was only deployed in the USSR near the end of the war. It was the largest and heaviest tank built during the war. It was even bigger and heavier than the King Tiger! There exists only one surviving example of it in russia, and you can physically see the dents in the front beezel armour where it was pounded by IS2's. Yet, there is not 1 hole in it!

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Re: Yet Another Ostheer Proposal (getting sick of these?)
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2010, 07:04:12 AM »
Discussed and shot down. Dont even try with the Maus

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Re: Yet Another Ostheer Proposal (getting sick of these?)
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2010, 08:43:44 AM »
ok then, how about bombing raids from the IS2 Stormavicks? They were the main fighter/bomber of the Soviet Airforce. They could do the IL2's for Russia, while using the dreaded JU-88 for the Ost.

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Re: Yet Another Ostheer Proposal (getting sick of these?)
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2010, 04:47:07 PM »
Your behind. IL2 is already in the mod.