Author Topic: Russian Campaign (Read 42352 times)

HeaDBaby · « **Reply #15 on:** September 20, 2009, 11:35:52 PM »

the tricky thing about adding romania to this mod is that it joined the war in 1940 as an ally of germany but then fought against them after 1944 with the russians. but then however when the war ended, it was declared as one of the contries that lost the war.

Ghost · « **Reply #16 on:** September 21, 2009, 01:17:48 AM »

Quote from: vengefulnoob on September 20, 2009, 11:18:42 PM

however there is one problem: I don't know where pavlov's house was... "

"The house was a four-story building in the center of Stalingrad, built parallel to the embankment of the river Volga and overseeing the "9th January Square", a large square named for Bloody Sunday (1905)." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavlov%27s_House)

ford_prefect · « **Reply #17 on:** September 21, 2009, 02:03:14 AM »

Quote from: vengefulnoob on September 20, 2009, 11:18:42 PM

I have my campaign idea here, adapted to fit in a second chapter:

"Ok I've figured out the campaign if ur interested:

the campaign follows the 13th guards rifle division from it's deployment at Stalingrad to The retaking of Orel. The characters are as follows:

1. The player, lieutenant sergei trufanov (fictional)
2. The players commander, general rotmistrov
3. Player's cocommander in certain missions, captain nikolai ivanov (fictional)
4. Other lower rank characters from 13th grds div
sergeant jakob Pavlov
lieutenant Anton kuzmich dragan

the mission list is as follows:
1. Landing on the Volga and taking part in pavlov's house, then moving on to the train station to assist dragan's defence
2. Attempting to take back mamayev kurgan's summit from the germans
3. Operation Uranus (player is reassigned to 4th tank corps under A.G. Kravchenko) and breaks through the Romanian lines
4. Operation ring: reassigned to 13th grds once more, the player attacks the red October tractor works where the last Germans remain.
5. Voronezh front: the player defends the Kursk bulge on it's southern side with 13th guards part of 5th guards tank army. Mostly infantry and at, NOT many tanks at this point
6. Prokhorovka: the player is commanded to take the divisions tanks into the battle of prokhorovka in a massive tank on tank battle
7. Operation rumiantsev counteroffensive: the player uses a combined force of tanks, infantry and friendly katyushas with plenty if air support to smash through the german lines and reach bogodukov. At the end of the mission, the player is seriously injured by a tiger tank Of 2nd ss "Das Reich" which kills Ivanov
8. Orel counterattack: the player recovers from his wounds and is reassigned to 3rd guards tank army, to attack Orel. Similar to rumiantsev, but with many more tanks (circa 30 t34s, 30 squads of guards and 16 t-70s (that's the rough size of the soviet motor rifle batalion at Kursk, counting motor rifle companies only))
when the battle ends, the player reflects on the battle: "3rd GTA was a worthy unit, but I knew which unit was my real home. 13th GRD"

before tub's campaign, the player rejoins 13th GRD and is promoted to captain in Ivanov's place, and put in command of 3rd guards mechanised battalion

I've been working on this for some time, and the campaign is mostly historically acurate but also playable (ie the map with the Volga landing and the train station is about 2km in length)

however there is one problem: I don't know where pavlov's house was... "

The fact is, is that that makes no sense for one army to go all over Russia like the other guy said I would like to see a call of duty campaign where you play as several different armies. Or something like the Tales of Valor thing with several short campaigns

Das Taub · « **Reply #18 on:** September 21, 2009, 10:59:00 AM »

if there was to be two campaigns, one focused on Stalingrad/Kursk, and the other on Bagration, then there could be a slight link between the two.

Reconnaissance in Force: 20th June, 1944. The 3rd Guards, under the Command of Polkovniv Ivan Danko, formerly a Starshi Leytenant in the 13th Guards, must probe and test the positions of the German 256th infantry, and capture several jump-off points in preperation for Bagration.

Minsk: 3rd July 1944. Minsk, the last great soviet city still under German control, is almost within the Russians Grasp. 3rd Guards must link up with Polkovnic Danko's old unit, the 13th Guards from the southern spearhead east of Minsk, then together drive into the city to liberate it and complete the destruction of Army Group Centre.

if the campaign needed to be shortened, the missions Lepel, Tolochin Marshes and crossing the Berezina could be cut out, though i'd love to see them included.

Ghost · « **Reply #19 on:** September 21, 2009, 04:16:30 PM »

i don't know how it'll work, i mean the main menu is allready very full...adding many more campaigns could be difficult

WartyX · « **Reply #20 on:** September 21, 2009, 04:51:08 PM »

We will be able to find a way.

bastex · « **Reply #21 on:** September 21, 2009, 04:55:22 PM »

a slide bar xD

UeArtemis · « **Reply #22 on:** September 21, 2009, 06:00:54 PM »

Return to a single button "Campaigns" like in the vCoH and choose a campaign in the menu of campaigns.

vengefulnoob · « **Reply #23 on:** September 21, 2009, 06:28:50 PM »

13th GRD was a real division and actualy fought in these battles, that's why I chose it

ty for pavlov's house info

@taub: maybe change the character's name to Trufanov? Continuity... As for 3rd guards, why not make it 3rd guards airborne? It was a real unit within 13th guards and post 1942, most airborne units were converted to standard infantry

Das Taub · « **Reply #24 on:** September 21, 2009, 11:24:09 PM »

I Chose Danko as he is the one mentioned in the 'Ultimate Guide'. he could easily be in the other campaign, as a Starshi Leytenant in a different part of the 13th Guards.

Guards Airborne (Gvardsky Vosdushno Descantniki) were little used during 1944.
i chose '3rd Guards' as an almenguation of the 3rd Guards mechanized, and the 3rd Guards tank, both key units of the northern spearhead of Operation Bagration. the 13th Guards was assigned to the southern spearhead, driving into Bobroisk and Ostprovichi.

UeArtemis · « **Reply #25 on:** September 22, 2009, 09:45:45 AM »

I do not approve of a idea of using guard airdescenders ("Gvardeyskie Vozdushno-Desantnie" divisions). They have done less in this war than famous Naval Infantrymen ("Morpehi"=Marines).
Bobruisk is very famous city in the CIS. Russian like it very much if this city would be in the campaign.
P.S.For style: I propose to use such words for Russian units: motorized and airdescenders (or simply descenders), Naval Infantry (not Marine) and etc.

Das Taub · « **Reply #26 on:** September 22, 2009, 10:00:28 AM »

Bobruisk was in the path of the Southern Spearhead, and my Campaign is focused on the Northern Spearhead (where the heaviest fighting took Place) however, i fail to see it not being included somewhere (most likely as another map)