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Offline Dann88

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[1.7.x.x] The ISU-152's rampage
« on: January 03, 2013, 05:47:27 AM »
Since the previous patch, while most people complain about IS-3's armor. But what about the ISU-152?
I always wanted to discuss about it. His gun is much more powerful then its Jagdpanther/Jagdtiger counterpart, he has splash damage and a somewhat cheap barrage. Now he even has 2 sec stunning-effect!
I really think he's somewhat... OP?

And as always, show me something that I don't know  ;D
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Re: [1.7.x.x] The ISU-152's rampage
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2013, 04:11:18 PM »
The ISU-152 has a terrible turning speed and no machineguns to fend of attacks by infantry. It also has average accuracy against infantry with the 152mm so, hitting them can be a problem.

Encircle it or use combined arms against it. But i do like the new stun effect it does^^ The new hiteffect is very nice too.
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Re: [1.7.x.x] The ISU-152's rampage
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2013, 09:10:20 PM »
Quote from: Orle on January 04, 2013, 04:11:18 PM
The ISU-152 has a terrible turning speed and no machineguns to fend of attacks by infantry.

Its designed to be a heavy tank and fight other tanks. So although it may not be great vs infantry, if it's as OP as dann says against tanks, then its OP. Just like a Panther is powerful but sucks vs infantry. Its still powerful

I haven't used it yet so i cant give an exact and vaild opinion
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Re: [1.7.x.x] The ISU-152's rampage
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2013, 10:46:43 PM »
We will check this report. Maybe the stun is too much.
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Re: [1.7.x.x] The ISU-152's rampage
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2013, 11:15:20 PM »
I think Dann may be overstating the case somewhat. Perhaps the stun effect could be ameliorated somewhat but I would like to see an upgrade to a 12.7 mm AA MG to ward of air attacks.
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Re: [1.7.x.x] The ISU-152's rampage
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2013, 06:36:25 AM »
The stun effect can be kept but as ministun instead.
The real problem is his big-splash with full-penetrated damage, double kill 2 stug IV or hetzer in 2 shots and 1 shot kill a 4-men panzergrenadiers is not a good experience at all. While the Jagdpanther/Jagdtiger struggle to kill allied tanks.

@Otto: please stay out of this.
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Re: [1.7.x.x] The ISU-152's rampage
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2013, 02:42:57 AM »
Well, not to be the weird one here Dann, but the ISU-152 uses HE ammo, whereas I'm assuming the Jagdpanzers use AP ammo. As such, infantry are easier to kill because of the ammo type. Its weakness is the slow fire speed and rotation, as well as the fact that you can take it out unsupported with ease (I've seen it done with a Hotchkiss to the rear). However, I will agree the stun effect is just a bit too much, lessening it to 1 second seems like the best option.

And Otto has every right to comment Dann, you are not above criticism (constructive or otherwise) and asking someone to stay out of a proper argument is wrong. Its your right to disagree, not to deny someone the right to speak.
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Re: [1.7.x.x] The ISU-152's rampage
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2013, 06:22:14 AM »
Yes, the ISU-152 use HE ammo but it should be animation only. And the ISU-152's damage output is still pretty high. I can play conservatively that's why with me the slow of both speed and fire rate is okay.
From my view, what ISU-152 can contribute for the whole army is much better than other super tank-destroyers with its super gun.

About Otto, it's still his choice stay out of this thread or not. I asked politely because I think he deserved some respect but most of his posts don't make sense or too long and confusing.
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Re: [1.7.x.x] The ISU-152's rampage
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2013, 08:33:16 AM »
IMO the problem here was that Otto disregarded the issue of the post without evidence.

Dann88 also didn't bring evidence for his claims, however this is something we can easily test.

Stay out of trouble ;).
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Re: [1.7.x.x] The ISU-152's rampage
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2013, 02:32:50 AM »
I used to stick to the IS3 thinking it is a no-brainier.  I got to try the ISU-152 next time if it is that good you guys claim it is.
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Re: [1.7.x.x] The ISU-152's rampage
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2013, 08:57:09 PM »
Enjoy ISU-152's rampage
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Re: [1.7.x.x] The ISU-152's rampage
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2013, 09:20:43 PM »
http://www.twitch.tv/dreamerbg/b/355211364

Game 2

Game 1 is called - GLD's tactic  :P
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Re: [1.7.x.x] The ISU-152's rampage
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2013, 05:13:21 AM »
Why? Why GLD tactic?
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Re: [1.7.x.x] The ISU-152's rampage
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2013, 01:15:41 AM »
It means God Like Dennis's Tatic Dann ;)
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Re: [1.7.x.x] The ISU-152's rampage
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2013, 03:01:35 PM »
Quote from: Dann88 on January 06, 2013, 06:22:14 AM
Yes, the ISU-152 use HE ammo but it should be animation only. And the ISU-152's damage output is still pretty high. I can play conservatively that's why with me the slow of both speed and fire rate is okay.
From my view, what ISU-152 can contribute for the whole army is much better than other super tank-destroyers with its super gun.

About Otto, it's still his choice stay out of this thread or not. I asked politely because I think he deserved some respect but most of his posts don't make sense or too long and confusing.

The ISU-152's slow speed and fire rate makes it like a much slower Stug. Stun though is quite long.
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