Bye all

[Hendrik 'DarcReaver' S.]

Time to play CoH 2 beta I guess...

[Alexander 'ApeMen' J.]

so everything stays the same conscript spam FTW

[Tehcumseh]

Well isn't OH in like a alpha/beta type thing?

If it's not going to be completed, then release what you have if the mod is dying... 

[Dreamerbg]

Ah...no, mod isnt dying ... just change in directions. At this point this change look sooo bad , maybe soon this  ship will turn on 180 degrees

[BurroDiablo]

I wish you all the best Dennis!

Ah...no, mod isnt dying ... just change in directions. At this point this change look sooo bad , maybe soon this  ship will turn on 180 degrees

The balancers made a lot of design changes and they will remain in place, we're not doing a complete 180, that would be even more counter productive.

What was the disagreement if you don't mind me asking. Must of been pretty big to cause this.

We lacked experienced players as designers from the outset, in my mind because the Ostheer was the first faction in which the entire Dev team was free to be as creative as possible and most experienced players left us when v1.0 Soviets was a shambles. We designed the Ostheer initially to our own predilections, and when balancers were brought in a large amount was changed to make the design more cohesive. Unfortunately this caused a lot of tension, a lack of communication and respect built up on both sides over the past year, it became insurmountable and this week it simply boiled over. Including experienced players that know the intricacies of CoH as Designers and Developers from the beginning would have solved many of our issues, it's a mistake we're unlikely to make again, without direction creative freedom just becomes redundant.

Well isn't OH in like a alpha/beta type thing?

If it's not going to be completed, then release what you have if the mod is dying... 

Of course, development will continue, but the balance will mostly be up to community discussion during the closed beta, so stay tuned for that.

[Dreamerbg]

Saying that I maen to shake hands with balancers once again , forget about the past and build a better future.

[BurroDiablo]

Okay, misunderstood. I thought you were assuming we'd roll back all the balancers design changes (which would take ages). We just want to develop the mod as normal, finish off whatever remains and then get out the closed beta for balance testing. The more we sit discussing things the longer development takes, we have to work to deadlines so unfortunately the time for parle has passed.

[Riggsman]

Hey Guys,

All who watched the Sublime shoutcasts which I was playing, my Twitchtv streams and replays, the people who I played with or against;

Take care, enjoy the New Year, have fun!

It was nice to know you all. I don't think I will keep playing EF anymore or stream, so see you in another game maybe in COH2? ^^

Follow my stream for COH games and maybe diff mods who knows?

Bye

[MonolithicBacon]

Firstly, my thanks to everyone who is leaving us! I may only have been a face with a name for a few months, but I've been following your work since you all first started here, so I'm honored to have been witness to your work.

That being said, while it is sad to see you go, this is a voluntary community after all, and nobody can be expected to stay forever! Thanks for everything you've done, and I hope you leave considering this a positive experience, rather than a negative result.

It's time for the rest of us to rally together and rise from the ashes.

[Pac-Fish]

Geez I didn't even realize so many ppl how left O_o

Just out of curiosity, who are the ppl who got kicked? So far all I know are Darc, GLD, Crani, Riggs, Ape, and Killar (whch tbh is almost everyone)

Whose left ? Is there like, no balance team atm?

[Tehcumseh]

Well I've lost all faith in humanity when people can't get along in video games... No wonder why we fight over everything else stupid and humanity is doomed...

I'm going to miss everyone... Why do all of the people I've internet bonded with have to be kicked out...

[GodlikeDennis]

Now is the winter of our discontent made glorious summer. Maybe all this is a fresh start and the mod will take off again, or maybe it will burn to the ground. The community will have to decide for yourselves how active in the development process you want to be and keep this mod alive. Though, look on the bright side. The end is nigh! anyway so it wouldn't have mattered.

Thanks for the words Burro. You have always been a stand up guy, and you too Maxi. Many of the devs I worked with were great guys. Certain others... not so much.

[Hendrik 'DarcReaver' S.]

at the behest of Crani I'm going to repost a goodbye quote to everyone who has contributed to the mod in the past:
(He can't anymore, because he got banned because of apparent childish behaviour)

I do wish to thank each and every person I played with and against in this mod and wish everyone luck, they're gonna need it. I had hoped we could put our silly little differences aside but it seems as if it had escalated far beyond fixing, even to the point where I had been banned for a full week after a post made this morning. I especially want to thank maxiking for his help with The Great Patriotic War, he's done a lot, and I will take up on your offer mate.
Until COH2 and other games, you can find me on steam...Cheers!

[Tankbuster]

Farewell, and take care.

[Dann88]

Anyone has other ways to communicate with GLD? Skype? Steam?