Ostheer Layout for 2.0.0.0 (Second Part)

[neosdark]

Will it be another prototype? Or maybe a captured Soviet tank?

[Killar]

PanzerIV is no prototype. Or what do you mean?

You already know it

[Blackbishop]

Guys, there is no reward unit for the Panzer IV so far, so I'm not sure what are you talking about . As I said before, Panzer IV is not even in stone so we shouldn't be thinking about a reward unit of it.

In broadcasted games we saw Stug III as main battle tank, now it this layout its PzIII again.
What is changed from then to now 

in broadcasts stug3 was indeed neutral, but it was stated that this might be changed back to panzer3 being neutral again. all just WIP

as for the panzer IV, i personally like it, but i also understand that some people don't want to see "just another panzer IV". so like neo said, something cool could be added to it or it could be replaced by something different. i would suggest replacing it with a "dicker max" (tank destroyer based on panzer4 chassis), something like a stronger marder - but that would be some kind of prototype unit (only 2 were used on eastern front) and i don't know if that would be a good idea but if the kugelblitz in... 

A tank Destroyer wouldn't fit, because you already have the Marder and the StuG(which works in a similar way).

[Riggsman]

I don't wanna see an Assault Gun/Tank Hunter as well which you have already Marder II and Stug in your disposal as same as Elephant as doctrinal. It must be a "Tank" along with Panther & Tiger or something else but not Assault Gun.

[Killar]

Guys, there is no reward unit for the Panzer IV so far, so I'm not sure what are you talking about . As I said before, Panzer IV is not even in stone so we shouldn't be thinking about a reward unit of it.

We discussed about this in the 2.0 thread. However rewards are for a future update anyways.

[delmar77]

One can not ignore PZ4 on the Eastern Front. He was present there. If you do not like, there are a variety of tanks and strategies that can be used in this new faction WITHOUT pz4 appear. It is not mandatory as Wehr. I frankly liked pz3 as main tank. I feel that the team balancers are on track.
And in my opinion, rewards should not be priorities.

[neosdark]

I was thinking you may do a captured T-34/85 or perhaps a captured KV-1. And I also came up with a reward unit for the Kugelblitz, the Flakpanzer T-34 (r). It was about as common as a Bergetiger, but did see service as part of SS Totenkopf on the Eastern Front so it would make good sense.

@Killar: I meant that would it be another prototype similar to the Kugelblitz?

[Gerrit 'Lord Rommel' G.]

The Flakpanzer T-34 wasnt part of a Waffe-SS-Division.
It was part of the 653. s.Pz.Jg.Abt, a Sturmgeschütz Ferdiand formation.
The Stabs-HQ needed mobile anti air defence. The Flakpanzer T-34 was made by the workshop company of the 653. s.Pz.Jg.Abt.
All in all the 653. s.Pz.Jg.Abt build a lot of "funnies" during the war. This workshop company build the Panther-PzIV-commander-tank, too.
The last "unique  weapon" of the 653. was the commander-tank Tiger (P).
Flakpanzer T-34 and Panther-PzIV were lost during the last months of wwII.

[neosdark]

Thanks for the correction Rommel, but would you be against it?

[Major Hochstetter]

Nice update guys!

I am happy about the Kugelblitz! 
And when the Panzer IV is as strong as a T-34/85, I can live with it. 

[Venoxxis]

The Flakpanzer T-34 wasnt part of a Waffe-SS-Division.
It was part of the 653. s.Pz.Jg.Abt, a Sturmgeschütz Ferdiand formation.
The Stabs-HQ needed mobile anti air defence. The Flakpanzer T-34 was made by the workshop company of the 653. s.Pz.Jg.Abt.
All in all the 653. s.Pz.Jg.Abt build a lot of "funnies" during the war. This workshop company build the Panther-PzIV-commander-tank, too.
The last "unique  weapon" of the 653. was the commander-tank Tiger (P).
Flakpanzer T-34 and Panther-PzIV were lost during the last months of wwII.

Sounds more like an unique reward unit to me, with JP armor type 


Good evening together, this is an awesome update.
Will the next update be about the doctrines?


Best regards from an old follower,
-V-

[Alexander 'ApeMen' J.]

@Venoxxis

maybe
the future will show
in the end one of the doctinal units were already shown in this update

when you find it you may get a cookie

[Sotahullu]

Nice! You're seriosuly adding SdKfz 251/21?

[Blackbishop]

Yes, we are serious . That unit is set in stone.

[Sommarkatze]

Sweet <3 And skip the part imo about soviet captured tanks ( sorry Neo <3)
Its confusing, and if I have to be rude and disrespectful to the hard work of the devs, its quite boring to see the same vehicle used again

I vote for the SOMUA 35 !