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Re: Soviet is Overpowered
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2012, 07:02:41 PM »
Ok put its still to strong vs WEHRMACHT heavy
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IS-3 the historical balance Problems
Dont worry is not going to be a whine post about a postwar tank ;)
The advantages of the Is3 is his brutal frontal armor in combination with this speed, so it outclasses the ISU AND every wehrmachttank.
On town maps, for example, you just cant relay on paks and here strats the problem.
The speed of IS3 makes it nearly impossibel  to get on the back of it.
This wouldnt be a problem if the sidearmor would be sidearmor, but in COH sidearomor is 50% chance for frontarmor and a 50%chance for backarmor, if I am rgth, am I?
So there are two things the shell be changed -> slow the tower turning ratio down, just a littel bit -> if it is a littel bit slower, a flanking tank/squads or whatever wouldnt be killed so fast and decrease its sidearmor, dont know if its possible, but my idea would be; increase the backarmor and make sidearmor 100% backarmor
This changes wouldnt effect it so much against PE
 
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Re: Soviet is Overpowered
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2012, 07:10:09 PM »
IS3 armor should have less penetration on frontal compared to the IS2 because of the sloped design of it. Also it has 25% more HP because of the weapons modifier thats ok for a 1 time call inn. However it should be as vulnerable as a IS2 rear armor. Thats currently not the case.

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Re: Soviet is Overpowered
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2012, 07:12:06 PM »
and what should be the reason?


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Re: Soviet is Overpowered
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2012, 04:52:41 AM »
Lets be honest. Almost everyone goes BT. Not always but for the most part yes. IS3>KT more often than not. IS3>Tiger so blitz becomes alot less powerful, especially with the SU-85 which rips apart StuHs and does surprisingly well vs infantry. IS3 can soak up a relatively good number of 88 shots and still keep ticking. Not to mention you get Airstrikes which do multiple runs with strafes AND bombing runs. And mechanics and T-34 riders which only add to this. Its like if u have no idea what to do BT always works out.

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Re: Soviet is Overpowered
« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2012, 05:25:36 AM »
Lets be honest. Almost everyone goes BT. Not always but for the most part yes. IS3>KT more often than not. IS3>Tiger so blitz becomes alot less powerful, especially with the SU-85 which rips apart StuHs and does surprisingly well vs infantry. IS3 can soak up a relatively good number of 88 shots and still keep ticking. Not to mention you get Airstrikes which do multiple runs with strafes AND bombing runs. And mechanics and T-34 riders which only add to this. Its like if u have no idea what to do BT always works out.

Yes but I find that Soviet Sturmovik airstrikes to be quite inefficient for clearing an area. They often tend to miss the important targets (i.e. Panthers and Tigers) and seem to kill more dirt than Germans. On the other hand God of War artillery is just blissful to use. It quickly clears an area of all living things. I tend to pick Propaganda doctrine just for that ability.
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Re: Soviet is Overpowered
« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2012, 06:14:44 AM »
IL-2 has been changed again to something quite spectacular. Maybe we can post a video of this. It fixes the issue of the rocket run not really hitting targets and often not even firing off.
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Re: Soviet is Overpowered
« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2012, 06:51:58 AM »
IL-2 has been changed again to something quite spectacular. Maybe we can post a video of this. It fixes the issue of the rocket run not really hitting targets and often not even firing off.
Great because it seemed like the pilots were just flying overhead and watching the fight. :P
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Re: Soviet is Overpowered
« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2012, 06:59:47 AM »
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Those pilots were executed and we got new ones :P.
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Re: Soviet is Overpowered
« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2012, 08:39:05 AM »
Lets be honest. Almost everyone goes BT. Not always but for the most part yes. IS3>KT more often than not. IS3>Tiger so blitz becomes alot less powerful, especially with the SU-85 which rips apart StuHs and does surprisingly well vs infantry. IS3 can soak up a relatively good number of 88 shots and still keep ticking. Not to mention you get Airstrikes which do multiple runs with strafes AND bombing runs. And mechanics and T-34 riders which only add to this. Its like if u have no idea what to do BT always works out.

My sturmovies fire bullets on Dirt and tanks while firing rockets on random trees and fences

IL-2 has been changed again to something quite spectacular. Maybe we can post a video of this. It fixes the issue of the rocket run not really hitting targets and often not even firing off.
Yes please!

I don't always go BT at all. I go LHS prop more often than not. However, IS-3 is usually a solid thing to fall back on if I don't need any doctrinal things and just get it as a bonus.
I always see that you have an IS3 when you defeat Yauz, must be coincidence.
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Re: Soviet is Overpowered
« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2012, 08:58:10 AM »
IL-2 has been changed again to something quite spectacular. Maybe we can post a video of this. It fixes the issue of the rocket run not really hitting targets and often not even firing off.
Nice !!!
Last game that we played 3v3 , bombing runs wasnt accurate.

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Re: Soviet is Overpowered
« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2012, 01:27:05 PM »
IL-2 has been changed again to something quite spectacular. Maybe we can post a video of this. It fixes the issue of the rocket run not really hitting targets and often not even firing off.
Bludy hell, BT seems IMBA now :o
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Re: Soviet is Overpowered
« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2012, 02:09:22 PM »
Whats IMBA mean ???

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Re: Soviet is Overpowered
« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2012, 02:13:19 PM »
Means unbalanced

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Re: Soviet is Overpowered
« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2012, 02:54:19 PM »
IL-2 has been changed again to something quite spectacular. Maybe we can post a video of this. It fixes the issue of the rocket run not really hitting targets and often not even firing off.
Bludy hell, BT seems IMBA now :o

No its no rocket strike anymore, but something different. IL2 planes will always fire now, not just fly over if there is anything to shoot at.
A USA bombing run can kill a panther in one strike. IL2 needs 4 strikes for this, so you can say the power of 1 USA strike is divided by 4. Plenty of time to flee.

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Re: Soviet is Overpowered
« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2012, 03:13:02 PM »
How many planes that can damage tanks will fly over the field ?
Or their count will depend on how many enemy tanks will be in the area :) ?