[7] Hietler & Riggsman & Dot.Shadow Zone #9 (Allied Defeat)

[Cranialwizard]

Fix this shit. NOW. I've had it with this unorganized crap where everyone is ready and then no one is ready.

Doodle will be used by FORCE next round, or the match will not be played. END of discussion.

[Dot.Shadow]

Wasnt my intention to not show up, but I've been staying in the city for longer than expected. :/

Intentions or not - In war, the enemy does wait for you to be ready. The Axis forces attacked at the agreed upon time. Only two allied companies were present, and thus would have been overrun quickly. Same goes for anything in life - Show up late for a job interview, the next guy gets the job.

That goes to all of you.

[Cranialwizard]

Wasnt my intention to not show up, but I've been staying in the city for longer than expected. :/

Intentions or not - In war, the enemy does wait for you to be ready. The Axis forces attacked at the agreed upon time. Only two allied companies were present, and thus would have been overrun quickly. Same goes for anything in life - Show up late for a job interview, the next guy gets the job.

That goes to all of you.

If you can play the game, play it. Don't complain it wasn't exactly on time, if it's 10 minutes late from agreed, 10 hours late from agreed, whatever. If you're all online, then play it man.

[JB23]

Fix this shit. NOW. I've had it with this unorganized crap where everyone is ready and then no one is ready.

Doodle will be used by FORCE next round, or the match will not be played. END of discussion.

Cranial I'll be blunt, Doodle won't make a single difference. Take this week for example, everyone decided on a time. One player couldn't show up due to connection issues. Game = forfeit. Wasn't anything slightly related to game organisation. Get rid of 3v3s and 4v4s, the chances of one player not showing up would be significantly decreased.

I tried to make the game happen, I really did and if the axis were not so picky it would have happened. (2v2s are good enough one week but not good enough the next. Odd, you'd almost get the impression Axis purposely refused a 2v2). Also when we re arranged a time (A time they decided might I add) for the game after finding a reserve they "had none of it", because "The match was agreed to be two hours ago" and he is "Now going to go do everything else he's put off today for you people". Yet he still has the time to come on the EF forum and whine, must have been something he's put off today for you people.

As you probably noticed I'm not happy with Axis sportsmanship, if they actually tried to make the game happen it would have.

Note that its 5 hours after the agreed time and he's still online, so yeah I'm not buying that BS of too busy.

[JB23]

Wasnt my intention to not show up, but I've been staying in the city for longer than expected. :/

Intentions or not - In war, the enemy does wait for you to be ready. The Axis forces attacked at the agreed upon time. Only two allied companies were present, and thus would have been overrun quickly. Same goes for anything in life - Show up late for a job interview, the next guy gets the job.

That goes to all of you.

If you can play the game, play it. Don't complain it wasn't exactly on time, if it's 10 minutes late from agreed, 10 hours late from agreed, whatever. If you're all online, then play it man.

Couldn't agree more

[Cranialwizard]

Fix this shit. NOW. I've had it with this unorganized crap where everyone is ready and then no one is ready.

Doodle will be used by FORCE next round, or the match will not be played. END of discussion.

Cranial I'll be blunt, Doodle won't make a single difference. Take this week for example, everyone decided on a time. One player couldn't show up due to connection issues. Game = forfeit. Wasn't anything slightly related to game organisation. Get rid of 3v3s and 4v4s, the chances of one player not showing up would be significantly decreased.

I tried to make the game happen, I really did and if the axis were not so picky it would have happened. (2v2s are good enough one week but not good enough the next. Odd, you'd almost get the impression Axis purposely refused a 2v2). Also when we re arranged a time (A time they decided might I add) for the game after finding a reserve they "had none of it", because "The match was agreed to be two hours ago" and he is "Now going to go do everything else he's put off today for you people". Yet he still has the time to come on the EF forum and whine, must have been something he's put off today for you people.

As you probably noticed I'm not happy with Axis sportsmanship, if they actually tried to make the game happen it would have.

Note that its 5 hours after the agreed time and he's still online, so yeah I'm not buying that BS of too busy.

I understand the 3v3s are a struggle, but Doodle allowed our game to be played ASAP with a smooth, no problem area. I get that 1 person can mess the whole thing up, however only a couple people as I read signed up on the schedule.

It really does make a difference, guys.

If the game can be played in a 2v2 format, so be it. Do it.

[JB23]

Fix this shit. NOW. I've had it with this unorganized crap where everyone is ready and then no one is ready.

Doodle will be used by FORCE next round, or the match will not be played. END of discussion.

Cranial I'll be blunt, Doodle won't make a single difference. Take this week for example, everyone decided on a time. One player couldn't show up due to connection issues. Game = forfeit. Wasn't anything slightly related to game organisation. Get rid of 3v3s and 4v4s, the chances of one player not showing up would be significantly decreased.

I tried to make the game happen, I really did and if the axis were not so picky it would have happened. (2v2s are good enough one week but not good enough the next. Odd, you'd almost get the impression Axis purposely refused a 2v2). Also when we re arranged a time (A time they decided might I add) for the game after finding a reserve they "had none of it", because "The match was agreed to be two hours ago" and he is "Now going to go do everything else he's put off today for you people". Yet he still has the time to come on the EF forum and whine, must have been something he's put off today for you people.

As you probably noticed I'm not happy with Axis sportsmanship, if they actually tried to make the game happen it would have.

Note that its 5 hours after the agreed time and he's still online, so yeah I'm not buying that BS of too busy.

I understand the 3v3s are a struggle, but Doodle allowed our game to be played ASAP with a smooth, no problem area. I get that 1 person can mess the whole thing up, however only a couple people as I read signed up on the schedule.

It really does make a difference, guys.

If the game can be played in a 2v2 format, so be it. Do it.

Could have easily played 2v2, we asked several times but no, not good enough.

I'll give Doodle the benefit of the doubt and try it next time. Still though, please remove at least some of the 3v3s

[Cranialwizard]

I don't really have another map in the "Paris" theme, but I'll see what I can cook up.

Games in capitals will stay as they are, I'll give an extra week for capital siege and in other cases make sure there are fluid reserves.

Axis, please try to recruit more people in game.

[Riggsman]

Well, why we are being accused I don't understand, you need more recruits then for this particular game- not Axis. We all showed up, spared time and one Ally player didn't- like the last time. We agreed to make the game 2v2 and lost. Even if you presented, we haven't received a Medal of Honor.

We lost territories to missing Axis players but if the same case to Allies, no- Axis has to be sportsman. Sorry but this doesn't sound fair to me.

I don't scare of any 2v2 that you can throw at me, I've played enough to get used to every abusive player in COH pool I guess. It's not about being reluctant, it's about rules that you made.

I didn't cancel the game just had to leave home. If we could wait 4(!) hours for one player, it could be for me.

[Pac-Fish]

Just out of curiosity, who was supposed to show up to this game?

[Cranialwizard]

If you don't want to play a 2v2 then it doesn't matter. I don't see bad sportsmanship really on either side really, we just need to get our act together.

[Riggsman]

It's not about wanting. It has to be clear;

If a player/players missing on the certain game time, then this sector;

a- Has to be given to the team who had full or more players present
b- Game has to be played 2v2 or even 1v1.

One of them has to be certain then we will not have more issues. Otherwise situation coming to who is more gentleman.

And it's really diff to set up large games with so many people from so many time zones. Noone has to be blamed in this case. Just we have to make more certain rules.

PS: If you decide that from now on, games have to be played regardless of player amount, I'm ready to play this game 2v2 anytime.

[Hietler]

Okey first of all the allied commanders are the ones who didn't show up(TWICE). So stop trying to blame the axis commanders for not wanting to make it happen. And as far as 2v2 goes, we said we could do 2v2 with a wehrmacht and panzer elite, but we mutually agreed to wait a couple of hours to try and make 3v3 happen. Screwing around and pointing fingers later on definately doesn't go by as sportsmanship in my book.

Second time around ashes was missing and we were 2 panzer elite, which in our experience and opinion makes for a crappy 2v2. However, even though I see myself being the least capable of the 3 commanders that are originally in the zone, I will stand by for an organized 1v1 if that's what you want.

As far as the doodle tool goes, it doesn't seem to do anything. I signed up for Thursday in doodle and wrote it on the forum. Yet I couldn't see anyone else doing the same thing(in doodle). Also people didn't answer the forum posts in ages, just like last time I was sent to battle with more or less the same crew. So making it happen any faster/smoother doesn't seem likely either way.

However, 3-4 Days before sunday we all agreed to meet 12:00 GMT on sunday. (Which by the way wasn't listed as an option in doodle). The allied commanders still failed to show up two times in a row. All the commanders had agreed to a given time 2-3 days on forehand last week aswell and failed to show up 2 days in a row. Even so we still managed to make it into a 2v2 with 2 panzer elite vs a brit and an american (last week).

I'm not sure whom of the allied commanders were abscent, but I think it was Mriousq (same as last week), and the same as the allies found a replacement for 2 weeks ago in 2 out of 3 matches. If I remember correctly.

And then to have the nerve to blabber about axis trying to cheat their way to an easy win. When all along (if anyone) it would seem the allies are the ones doing that exact thing.

So to sum it all up; the way JB has posted deceivingly and competitively(both in the forum and in-game) I have sensed disrespect and narrow mindedness that would make me go as far as to say that we are currently at the state of unfriends.  -_-

[Mr.ious.Q]

What the hell? I ALWAYS the one who is on time! I ALWAYS show up 1 hour before the match start. You should check stuff again before wrote that, in last week, the one didn't shwo up first is Riggs then it's Killar, I was there BOTH the time (through midnight in my country, only JB is the one who's nice enough to notice that). I also was there the week before too (when we got raped by the Axis). This week I was online 1 hour before the match as always but somehow my internet connection was force through a proxy server that didn't show up in my computer at all that I have to use Ultrasurf just to barely got it back. Seriously, "Why's always me?" (Balotelli qoute).
About the other complains too, in those engagements 2 weeks ago, the lagging was clearly didn't cause by me in the 1st match, because I didn't change my settings for the next 2 matches, but everything went fine after that. About the waiting, both time the Allied had to wait more than 1 hour! In the 1st engagement, the allied had to wait 1 hour, next time, they had to wait 3 LONG HOURS and we didn't whine a word about that too. I don't want to say much but after saw how you guys bend the truth I have to say. No hard feelings.

[Riggsman]

What the hell? I ALWAYS the one who is on time! I ALWAYS show up 1 hour before the match start. You should check stuff again before wrote that, in last week, the one didn't shwo up first is Riggs then it's Killar, I was there BOTH the time (through midnight in my country, only JB is the one who's nice enough to notice that). I also was there the week before too (when we got raped by the Axis). This week I was online 1 hour before the match as always but somehow my internet connection was force through a proxy server that didn't show up in my computer at all that I have to use Ultrasurf just to barely got it back. Seriously, "Why's always me?" (Balotelli qoute).
About the other complains too, in those engagements 2 weeks ago, the lagging was clearly didn't cause by me in the 1st match, because I didn't change my settings for the next 2 matches, but everything went fine after that. About the waiting, both time the Allied had to wait more than 1 hour! In the 1st engagement, the allied had to wait 1 hour, next time, they had to wait 3 LONG HOURS and we didn't whine a word about that too. I don't want to say much but after saw how you guys bend the truth I have to say. No hard feelings.

Easy mate, nobody is blaming you. Everyone knows how its diff to get things together for large games, we need a certain rule that's all. Sportsmanship cost us rounds actually. No more Mr. nice guy. This is the song we sing now that's all. You are good.