Finnish Army

[Dominic 'Dragon' Cassidy]

There are other ways for countries to be represented ingame, without the need to create whole new races, or edit doctrines.....

[akn102991]

There are other ways for countries to be represented ingame, without the need to create whole new races, or edit doctrines.....

True, just look at the different accents of the British Army, kind hinted at Canadians being part of it...

Also, the idea that just posting a list will get you some sort of recognition or praise for helping the effort is kind, but not needed.  In reality, for ever unit on the list you post, there would be dozens of hours of blood sweat and tears poured into it, in the modeling, texturing, bug fixing, and balancing stages of putting it in the game. 

This is why I am baffled at the people who post about a certain esoteric vehicle or weapon or something they have some historical fetish about and then whine why it isn't in the game, and how historically relevant it is. 

The objective is to capture the feel of the Russians, not be a page for page copy from a history book. 

Also, fun & balance trumps realism 9 times out of 10.

[ford_prefect]

There are other ways for countries to be represented ingame, without the need to create whole new races, or edit doctrines.....

True, just look at the different accents of the British Army, kind hinted at Canadians being part of it...

Also, the idea that just posting a list will get you some sort of recognition or praise for helping the effort is kind, but not needed.  In reality, for ever unit on the list you post, there would be dozens of hours of blood sweat and tears poured into it, in the modeling, texturing, bug fixing, and balancing stages of putting it in the game. 

This is why I am baffled at the people who post about a certain esoteric vehicle or weapon or something they have some historical fetish about and then whine why it isn't in the game, and how historically relevant it is. 

The objective is to capture the feel of the Russians, not be a page for page copy from a history book. 

Also, fun & balance trumps realism 9 times out of 10.

even if Finland was made as a whole new country.............. wait a tic................. what happens when the Rusikes send over 4 isu's what do you have? Some small tanks made in Finland and some tanks you borrowed from your ally Germany? I mean face it. Its called balancing. That is your main enemy here. Russia would just kill them in several minutes in a 1v1

[Flippis]

Harmless correction: Finns never manufactured their own tanks, only bought them or captured them from elsewhere.

What would finns have and what DID the finns have in such situations? Well, thank god they received handheld anti-tank guns such as fausts and shrecks in order to tackle with the soviet heavy-weights.

[UeArtemis]

BT-42 was their own assault gun.

[BurroDiablo]

Not really... Finns just merged a British howitzer onto the chassis of a BT-7. Sure, they made the turret, but anybody with enough metal, a welder and a rivet gun could have done that.

[ford_prefect]

I think its safe to say that this case has been solved! It wont happen because it can't physically happen! To much unfairness in it

[Flippis]

Assault gun / self-propelled artillery since it was quite like a mix of both. Indeed, it was just a mix of different parts, not meaning it was purely their own. Besides, we spoke about tanks. Assault gun isnt a tank.

Cant talk about mass production either since there were under 20 of them made.

[ford_prefect]

Assault gun / self-propelled artillery since it was quite like a mix of both. Indeed, it was just a mix of different parts, not meaning it was purely their own. Besides, we spoke about tanks. Assault gun isnt a tank.

Cant talk about mass production either since there were under 20 of them made.

20!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Flippis]

18 to be precise...



"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

[ford_prefect]

18 to be precise...



"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

let me say this......................................fail

[Flippis]

Troll too much?

[JuL14n]

Just had to log in to correct some stuff.

Why all this talk about Finnish tanks? We had
around 50 tanks in the whole winterwar, while the Russians came with thousands.
And the most used AT-weapon wasn't panzerfausts & shrecks,
actually it was molotov cocktails that were thrown into the engine room or right into the cockpit on most of the Russian tanks, wheeled AT-cannons were also used more then shrecks and fausts. After all trenchshoveling it was no big deal to use the shovel to break up a hatch.

Sub-machineguns, were seldom used,
this was one weakness when the Finnish flanks were stormed
by Russians, but those times we had the Russian artillery
bombing our flanks(mostly trenches) non-stop which lead to a total massacre of their own troops.

And also, to move fast through the snowy terrain skies were
used very often.

And btw, I'm looking very much forward for this mod! And I don't
want it ruined by some Finnish forces 

[Flippis]

But that's winter war for you. Continuation War different deal on later on. Since the battles ceased in early 1942 and didnt resume properly until summer 1944.

[ford_prefect]

But that's winter war for you. Continuation War different deal on later on. Since the battles ceased in early 1942 and didnt resume properly until summer 1944.

ok well how many tanks did they have then??? 40