Far Eastern Front?

[Flanker1949]

I'm guessing that's an anti-bot measure.

Yes it is, mate. So do you know what is the right answer?

the answer is ........ none

Unfortunately I have tried that, but didn't work 

[Flanker1949]

Yeah EF is the best mod, nobody can change it.
But MC was made by another group (Black Sand studio?), so it's their bussiness, EF devs don't have anything to do with it. All we can do is hope them keep balancing the MC, which still has a lot of abuse (which is sometimes I like that).

You misunderstood me, mate. I was suggesting EF team to great their own MC mod for COH 2 in the future. 

[Dann88]

Oh well... I don't think there will be

[Dzierzan]

Probably not, because DLCs mean more money, mods mean no money. But we shall see what Relic will do.

[MBJrP36]

Yeah EF is the best mod, nobody can change it.

I also love the Blitzkrieg mod, different play style though.

[Flanker1949]

This is frustrating! Their new patch only introduce more bug   

[Chancellor]

People, this regards the future of the mod.  READ IT.  I don't care if you won't read anything else I write after this.  You need to READ THE WHOLE DAMN THING THAT'S WRITTEN HERE!  ITS IMPORTANT, AND IT MATTERS

I support adding China and Japan into the mod.  With CoH2 coming out, what is going to differentiate EF Mod anymore?  NOT the Ostheer, I can tell you that.  Bringing in new German vehicles is getting old.  Every other mod does it.  At the moment our only competitive advantage is the Russians.  Once Relic offers that in CoH2, its over.  I'm really not trying to be a downer here, but it really is what it is.

Imagine a CoH with China vs Japan, Japan vs USA, Japan vs USSR, Japan vs British match-ups.  These are all historical too!  Most importantly, it will be something that Relic won't have for CoH2, and also the work needed to implement the actual models would be minimum as long as Tiger205 agrees to share.

http://www.moddb.com/mods/the-far-east-war [nofollow]

99% of the models are already in for the Far East Mod for CoH.  I highly recommend joining with this mod and just doing the balance adjustments for it.

Die-hard EF players like Dennis, Cranial, and a few others won't ever opt to CoH2 for EF, and neither will a lot of the daily forum people, but believe me, unless there is some sort of special trick EF mod can pull out of its ass, EF WILL DIE OFF once CoH2 arises.  The Osteer release will not be able to save it, since its not a whole different nation's army; its just more...Germans...  Relic can offer plenty of Germans in CoH2, and so can other CoH1 modders.  People got excited for the Russians because it was a whole new nation.  No other mod could offer it at the time.  The same can happen for Japan.

If a shit and unnecessary faction like the RMC can get forced in, I really don't see why legit factions such as China and Japan can't be in.  Unhistorical arguments don't work either; theres already a lot of Russian/American team combos in EF.  That whole Japan in Europe shit doesn't work either.  New maps can be made for Asia, just as new maps are already being made for the Eastern Front.

Really, I keep seeing a lot of excess factions and game modes that no one except a few noobs ever play.  Besides Blackbishop, Apeman, Burro, and Walki, I'm seeing devs that only log onto the forum once in a full blue moon.  This major inactivity includes the lead devs, who supposed to be the people most passionate about the mod.  I'm seeing some such devs who log on only once in a full blue moon only for the purpose of fucking around the balance or adding their new personal shit to the mod.  I'm seeing this mod lose more and more popularity daily.  Its time the dev team did something in the right direction for once.

[Dann88]

Wrote shortest as I could.
My choice is either Nam 69' or The Great War. Japan vs China or Allied factions vs Japan is not a really good idea, in-land battles of Japanese and Chinese involve somewhat similar to the tatics used from WW1, while the most awesome of the Pacific is actually from the navy battles with planes, which CoH1 or even 2 never can support.
So The Great War can actually provide what the J and C gonna do. Nam 69' provides what EF did, a whole new faction with a little hope that it can be balanced eventually.
And if the EF gonna die out, so be it. We can still create a small group to keep playing it, EF is the same without a lot of compstomp noobs who kick strangers on the 1st sight, they don't have ball to try pvp even once then so be it, they can go into CoH2 and keep their whore-stat life.

[Blackbishop]

Seeing how the Eastern Front will be represented in CoH2 I can say there will be EF mod for a while.

[GodlikeDennis]

I agree with Bish. For all we know, CoH2 could turn into a huge pile of shit and actually INCREASE the popularity of EF. It's optimistic but a possibility. From what I've heard/seen of CoH2 so far, I'm really not impressed and a lot of stuff is ripped from EF anyway.

[Killar]

Adding the chinese/japanese faction to EF might work, if we add the far east war mod to EF as reward armys for WEhrmacht and USA. Far East War mod replaces vcoh factions with just new models (WEhrmacht becomes Japanese army and USA becomes Chinese army). The developer of that mod is dev in our mod.
However adding more factions and models makes the game more crashy. I wouldn´t do that imo. You gain more fun out of 2 factions, than have multible ones that tend to not work properly. Even now EF crashes too often.

[Pac-Fish]

Crashing aside (which I'll be honest, I am completely ignorant about), I dont really see a China faction being effective. Im not trying to be mean or anything towards CHina but as I recall they were getting pushed around by the Japanese and although they did fight, their technology wasn't necessarily the best. I could be wrong as I didn't look too much into the China/Japan struggle. Maybe a Marines factions (not RMC I mean like a different USA faction)

And if the EF gonna die out, so be it. We can still create a small group to keep playing it, EF is the same without a lot of compstomp noobs who kick strangers on the 1st sight, they don't have ball to try pvp even once then so be it, they can go into CoH2 and keep their whore-stat life.

That would be so boring no one wold want to play it anymore. Playing the same person everyday gets boring after a while. People want variety.

From what I've heard/seen of CoH2 so far, I'm really not impressed and a lot of stuff is ripped from EF anyway.

They might have ripped off EF's stuff but EF is a mod and COH2 is a "legit" game. People are going to pay more attention to the COH2.

Sometimes when me and my other teammate were practicing for the TGW tournament (the one we just had), we would have practice games in vCOH and random teams would join. Sometimes they asked why we would have to leave afterwards (cause they wanted a rematch) and we would say we had a EF tournament. And they would say how they didn't like EF or how imbalanced it is and how COH2 would be so much better. Then I ask if they've played EF again to see if it got better and they'd say ofc not. And this has happened multiple times. So even if COH2 flops I dont think we will get many new ppl.

[Alexander 'ApeMen' J.]

i also dont see anything good in adding japan and china

adding more and more leads only into big massive balance problems
and the biggests difference between coh2 and coh ef is still (nex to to the fact that many gay things of coh2 are not part of coh) that you can play still with usa/brits and wehr/pe

so you have 6 factions to play in ef

what has coh2? let me count... oh its just 2

i dont want to say that less factions are bad, i still think for relic it will be better to create a balanced gameplay with only 2 factions
but i can hardly see that ef would benefit from adding these 2 factions

it would be more then bk
just adding as much as we can and dont care about gameplay and balance. this is not what we want

[Dann88]

Actually, Yauz also introduced a whole new mod. But SU vs J is not a really good option though...

I want to talk about Fish's post but I will gain nothing (no offense).

[Chancellor]

Right now I understand everyone is counting on CoH2 to be shit.  Including myself, I really think it will be shit too; their fucking German baby suit skins make my eyes bleed even more than snowman grenadiers!  HOWEVER, that does not mean noobs will not flock to it.  They will get CoH2 without a doubt.  Even if CoH2 really becomes shit, I'm really not sure they will flock to EF.  Remember, there are more noobs out there than pros.  Graphical and sound improvements mean a LOT to these people.  CoH is getting to become an old game.  If CoH2 fails, theres no telling how many people will simply just quit the CoH series totally, instead of coming back to EF.  Once again, I repeat: we need something more compelling to lure people in.  If RMC can be included, I think its ridiculous that Japan cannot be added.

As for the Japan/China balance argument of inferior technology, I have to agree.  HOWEVER, I think Japan can be balanced to be on par.  They won't have any super heavy tanks to counter the Pershing or anything, but they can have some medium tanks or some other shit like suicide bombers or strafing runs from their famed Zeroes to even the playing field.  They could have the Type 3 Chi-Nu as a single call-in.  With WW2 China's VERY shitty technology, I can see being too hard to balance, but it still might be done if we do the zerg tactic.  Personally, if China didn't get added in, I wouldn't have a problem, since they ONLY fought the Japanese.  But really do I want the Japs in because there was Japan vs US, Japan vs British and also Japan vs USSR fights in WW2.