[1.60] What do you think of Soviet Tank Hunters?

[e-gon]

Currently my only problem with Tank hunters is that due to the way they function, they are not so good against acs, or at least not too good...they can always use their ambush, their long range, and their mines as deterrents, but harassing them with acs is quite effective 

Yap, i think the Problem is they work like the RRs, but they should be "ligth at" (good vs SC Acs Pumas Hts and Stuff like that)

[Tankbuster]

Currently my only problem with Tank hunters is that due to the way they function, they are not so good against acs, or at least not too good...they can always use their ambush, their long range, and their mines as deterrents, but harassing them with acs is quite effective 

Yap, i think the Problem is they work like the RRs, but they should be "ligth at" (good vs SC Acs Pumas Hts and Stuff like that)

True, as of now, the Sturmovie PPsH is way more effective against the AC than the PTRD. It penetrates the Shit out of PE vehicles.

[Hendrik 'DarcReaver' S.]

Like I said... Use the THs defensively to protect your AT guns and to place mines. They can immobilize enemy tanks and let your AT guns destroy them easily.

[Pac-Fish]

They ALWAYS immobliize tanks ?

[Hendrik 'DarcReaver' S.]

They're special AT mines which always cause criticals on tanks, similar to stickies.

[donthateme]

They ALWAYS immobliize tanks ?

They used to immobilize ALL THE TIME last patch. IIRC the chance for "Immobilize" (destroyed engine) is now something about 60% and 40% for damaged engine.

[Joshua9]

yeah, tank hunters aren't a hard counter to ac's by any means but they are enough of a deterrent.  My comments were being used, but I wasn't suggesting that the ac tank hunter dynamic by itself was the particular problem.  my beef is more with tank hunters vs PIVs.   

As to the at mines,  what is the radius on these?  I get 3 immobilized tanks to 1 at mine far too frequently.  You could argue "play better" and there's some merit to that in regards to bunching or not bunching tanks, but this seems like way too much bang for the buck, no?

[Hendrik 'DarcReaver' S.]

Well you shouldnt mob all your tanks together on one spot. It's way more effective to use 1-2 heaviest tanks as meatshiled and the other tanks flank the enemy poistion.

[Walentin 'Walki' L.]

[...] but this seems like way too much bang for the buck, no?

Na it isn't, it's a good reason to get the tank hunter upgrade.

[Joshua9]

so then, is the radius the same as PE AT mines?  If so, I should probably just accept it as is...if its bigger, what is the rationale?

[Pac-Fish]

Is the TH mine better or similar to the teller? Cause I've used the teller but when I use the TH mine it never goes off so I was wondering how much dmg it does.

[GodlikeDennis]

Teller mine does much more damage. TH mine has a much higher chance of engine damage/immobilise.

[Mattdamon07]

Tank Hunters were actually substantially buffed at close range but heavily nerfed at long range. They are better for supporting your AT guns now. However, the AT nade is quite crap and doesn't do the job it's supposed to - stopping circle-strafing units. THs are still useful against light vehicles or when hitting the rear of an enemy vehicle and are especially deadly up close. They can even wear down tanks at long range from the front, it just takes a lot more time.

THs aren't a shock AT unit like say, shreks. They wear enemy vehicles down through attrition, ambush and immobilisation.

The team is very happy with the PTRD stats AFAIK but the unit itself is still being discussed.

ahhh i see why my volks did shit against tank hunters and close range

[krupp steel]

Tbh tank hunters are horrible at their job
Their at weaponry are antitank rifles so they pretty much crape as 1 at rifle cant even take 1/8 of its health.  Just when I though single unupgraded tankbusters for pe or rangers are the worst at tankhuntersby 4x.  An extra AT rifle upgrade still is worst than a squad with a single bazooka.  Id rather get an AT gun which is 5X more reliable at killing vehicles.

[stealthattack1]

Id rather get an AT gun which is 5X more reliable at killing vehicles.

QFT

and thats the way its supposed to be.