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[1.6] Tanks of USSR
« on: February 24, 2012, 10:13:36 AM »
Friends as you think about the amount of bonuses to the Soviet tanks (for example: accuracy), at reception 85ΠΌΠΌ guns or other upgrade for all or separate tanks. :)
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Re: Tanks of USSR
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2012, 11:04:18 AM »
What? What do you mean? You mean to make more upgrades for soviets tank which upgrade theirs stats (accuracy, rate of fire).

Don't you think that SU tanks are already good? Anyway i think that this is not good idea.

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Re: Tanks of USSR
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2012, 11:24:11 AM »
Mmm... I suggest to hardly  tanks.
Bad tank(unaccuratly)+arsenal(example 85 mm)=normal tank.

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Re: Tanks of USSR
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2012, 12:50:21 PM »
Mmm... I suggest to hardly  tanks.
Bad tank(unaccuratly)+arsenal(example 85 mm)=normal tank.
The soviet tanks are quite accurate already, they reliably hit infantry and tanks while they stand still. IS-2 got the same battle performance as Panthers. 2 can seriously wound a King Tiger in a front-to-front fight and the T34/85 is also a beast. It is spammable and got a very powerful gun. The T34/76 is weaker, but also quite cheap compared to Cromwells and Shermans.
ISU and IS-3 are also very strong tanks and are on even levels with Tigers.

Also Soviets get plenty artillery to clear Paks and 88s.

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Re: Tanks of USSR
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2012, 01:03:28 PM »
Mmm... I suggest to hardly  tanks.
Bad tank(unaccuratly)+arsenal(example 85 mm)=normal tank.
The soviet tanks are quite accurate already, they reliably hit infantry and tanks while they stand still. IS-2 got the same battle performance as Panthers. 2 can seriously wound a King Tiger in a front-to-front fight and the T34/85 is also a beast. It is spammable and got a very powerful gun. The T34/76 is weaker, but also quite cheap compared to Cromwells and Shermans.
ISU and IS-3 are also very strong tanks and are on even levels with Tigers.

Also Soviets get plenty artillery to clear Paks and 88s.

Well said, I don't think soviet tanks need upgrades for accuracy.
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Re: Tanks of USSR
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2012, 03:17:10 PM »
IMO the soviets tanks are sadly to powerful. They have litteraly no weakness. Great speed, great armour, great accuracy. Not like the germans heavy and slow but good for fights nor the Americans light and fast but weaker in combat. And the british got.. Great armour but weak guns? XD And this is said in pure gameplay value. Screw history! XD

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Re: Tanks of USSR
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2012, 03:40:37 PM »
Moving accuracy for soviet tanks is not very good.
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Re: Tanks of USSR
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2012, 04:43:53 PM »
And of course the IS-2 is stronger than the panther, its rival :P. And like previosly said, the T-34 is more spammable. And if you dont like that there is the KV series which practically DEFLECTS all StuG shots :P
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Re: Tanks of USSR
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2012, 04:52:38 PM »
Actually, KV-1 vs P4 is pretty even.
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Re: Tanks of USSR
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2012, 06:44:14 PM »
agreed. soviet tanks are Good as is. su-100 is accurate enough to go against infantry for petes sake.


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Re: Tanks of USSR
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2012, 10:54:28 PM »
SU tanks don't need any more buffs. Their primary disadvantage is the time it takes to get them, and cost in the case of heavier ones. This was historically true. The T-34 was only available in small numbers when the Germans invaded the SU, and production didn't kick off until later. The T-34 was an incredible tank nonetheless. It is largely considered to the best tank of WWII due to its speed, armor, armament, and ease/cost of production. In fact, the Panther was designed SPECIFICALLY to counter the T-34.

The T-34 was a phenomenal tank, and EF shows that pretty well. The Germans had good tanks, yes, but the SU had better ones.
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Re: Tanks of USSR
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2012, 11:02:31 PM »
SU tanks don't need any more buffs. Their primary disadvantage is the time it takes to get them, and cost in the case of heavier ones. This was historically true. The T-34 was only available in small numbers when the Germans invaded the SU, and production didn't kick off until later. The T-34 was an incredible tank nonetheless. It is largely considered to the best tank of WWII due to its speed, armor, armament, and ease/cost of production. In fact, the Panther was designed SPECIFICALLY to counter the T-34.

The T-34 was a phenomenal tank, and EF shows that pretty well. The Germans had good tanks, yes, but the SU had better ones.

Well I wouldn't quite say that. Axis factions have on par basically with the German armor. SU tanks also don't have quite good moving accuracy (1 T34 doesn't do so well on the move even if it's speedy as hell)
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Re: Tanks of USSR
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2012, 11:20:15 PM »
@Trooper425,  just a questioning about history, i thought that the T-34 was the so-called "tank that won the war." why do you say there went many of them?


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Re: Tanks of USSR
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2012, 11:23:53 PM »
@Trooper425,  just a questioning about history, i thought that the T-34 was the so-called "tank that won the war." why do you say there went many of them?

I think he's accounting for the fact that the Soviets had quite a bit of shock from the axis concerning vehicle count but when the T34s hit the field the current axis equipment became outdated, thus was spammed  ;D
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Re: Tanks of USSR
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2012, 01:24:02 AM »
ahh.


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