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Offline cephalos

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[1.6] Zis-2 and other faction's AT measures
« on: February 03, 2012, 06:07:50 PM »
So basically my question here is about ZiS-2 ( upgraded and not) stats comparing to Pak38 and 57mm AT Gun. I'd be glad if those would be as precise as possible :)
Also what's Zis-2 veterancy bonuses?

GUN  / RANGE  / DAMAGE /  ACCURACY ( short/medium/long)

PAK38     / 60 / 115 / 1/0.9/0.65
M1 57mm/ 60 / 150 / 1/0.9/0.65
ZiS-2       / 57 / 125 / 1/0.9/0.65
Up.ZiS-2  / 57 / 145 / 1/0.9/0.65
« Last Edit: February 03, 2012, 06:53:21 PM by blackbishop »
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Re: [1.6] Zis-2 and other faction's AT measures
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2012, 07:13:11 PM »
Thanks bish :)
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Re: [1.6] Zis-2 and other faction's AT measures
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2012, 09:47:56 PM »
i think there are conversations that i didnt see, but this is a good chart so, thanks! (to whoever)
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Re: [1.6] Zis-2 and other faction's AT measures
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2012, 10:16:52 PM »
blackbishop just edited cephalos' post instead of answering it ;)
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Re: [1.6] Zis-2 and other faction's AT measures
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2012, 10:25:37 PM »
yea :) thanks blacky  ;D

I was wondering why soviet Zis-2 is so insanely effective against AC. And now I know - 145 dmg  :o
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Re: [1.6] Zis-2 and other faction's AT measures
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2012, 10:36:28 PM »
We can still tone down the dmg vs armoured cars and PE halftracks if needed :).
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Re: [1.6] Zis-2 and other faction's AT measures
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2012, 11:01:18 PM »
Well its damage is similar to the 57mm :P. Maybe it appears high cause the AC and HT have a different type of armor that changes the ZiS dmg ???.

I never noticed its dmg against AC. Never seems to hit it for me :(
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Re: [1.6] Zis-2 and other faction's AT measures
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2012, 06:57:26 AM »
It always hits my AC though.
Read the 1st post, my volks are making a beeline for the upgunned ZiS.
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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2012, 10:01:18 AM »
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Re: [1.6] Zis-2 and other faction's AT measures
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2012, 11:48:48 AM »
Quote from: blackbishop on February 03, 2012, 10:36:28 PM
We can still tone down the dmg vs armoured cars and PE halftracks if needed :).

THe upgraded Zis gun is still weaker than the US 57mm made by relic. Why should we tone it down?
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Re: [1.6] Zis-2 and other faction's AT measures
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2012, 12:13:54 PM »
Quote from: Killar on February 12, 2012, 11:48:48 AM
Quote from: blackbishop on February 03, 2012, 10:36:28 PM
We can still tone down the dmg vs armoured cars and PE halftracks if needed :).

THe upgraded Zis gun is still weaker than the US 57mm made by relic. Why should we tone it down?

I don't know. It was bishop's suggestion. But truth is that Zis-2 is insanely effective against AC... even more than 57mm. I have no idea why, but 2-shooting AC isn't suprising to me.
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Re: [1.6] Zis-2 and other faction's AT measures
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2012, 01:08:33 PM »
The US 57mm also 2 shots ACs.
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Re: [1.6] Zis-2 and other faction's AT measures
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2012, 01:13:12 PM »
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Re: [1.6] Zis-2 and other faction's AT measures
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2012, 01:14:59 PM »
he didnt want to suggest a change, he just said "dont fix what is not broken"
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Re: [1.6] Zis-2 and other faction's AT measures
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2012, 01:15:50 PM »
Ah ok I misunderstood*
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