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Re: THQ will develop a new Company of Heroes game
« Reply #210 on: August 21, 2012, 04:37:51 PM »
Im sure its a spotter

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Re: THQ will develop a new Company of Heroes game
« Reply #211 on: August 21, 2012, 05:09:18 PM »
The Sniper-team was never really broken. The only problem was, that only Soviets had them, while other Sniperz were single. As long as Axis and Soviets both get a Sniper-team in CoH2, I dont see any (balance-) problems.

As long as both factions have sniper teams...I don't know if this fixes the problem. Will there be a Spotter and a Sniper or 2 Snipers? If it is 2 Snipers, there is still something wrong with that.

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Re: THQ will develop a new Company of Heroes game
« Reply #212 on: August 21, 2012, 06:05:47 PM »
Im sure its a spotter

One has a scope and the other one doesn't. So it looks like what we use to have. Like vCOH it will take some patched to iron out the balance, but in truth any unit can be balanced if you teak the stats well enough and I trust Relic. Plus someone mentioned their accuracy not being as good vs moving targets. Hopefully they'll have limited the snipers impact in the game overall. Currently they're too much of a focal point far more than MG/Mortars.
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Re: THQ will develop a new Company of Heroes game
« Reply #213 on: August 21, 2012, 06:09:31 PM »
You can't just flip stats around enough to change it's broken design flaws or it's fail. If we hard nerfed snipers by giving them all Passive Cloak then yes, there would be less focus on snipers, but that would be changing design :)

If the Germans do not have a dual team then the soviet team will not be balanced unless it's not a 100% accuracy vs most crap like vcoh.

Probably docking any sort of camo from the dual snipers might be OK.
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Re: THQ will develop a new Company of Heroes game
« Reply #214 on: August 21, 2012, 06:29:36 PM »
You can put the reinforcement cost of the sniper team to being the actual "buy price", making it 1-1 in Cost VS Risk for a sniper/spotter combo vs single-sniper, for both persons. As long as you can ensure that the sniper in the sniper/spotter combo will always be favored as a target.
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Re: THQ will develop a new Company of Heroes game
« Reply #215 on: August 21, 2012, 06:42:28 PM »
@Rizz
We used to have it like that in the internal version a while ago but it was never released on public and was split into the upgrade system ;D. It will make the unit earn vet faster, but that can be fixed by tweaking either the vet bonuses and/or the vet requirements.

With "faster", I mean that the unit survives to be sniped and lives another day saving it's already earned kills.
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Re: THQ will develop a new Company of Heroes game
« Reply #216 on: August 21, 2012, 06:45:00 PM »
Indeed, but against Wehr, who gains vet for "free" (i.e. no reason to keep unit alive), they have an even greater advantage imo.
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Re: THQ will develop a new Company of Heroes game
« Reply #217 on: August 21, 2012, 06:45:44 PM »
You can put the reinforcement cost of the sniper team to being the actual "buy price", making it 1-1 in Cost VS Risk for a sniper/spotter combo vs single-sniper, for both persons. As long as you can ensure that the sniper in the sniper/spotter combo will always be favored as a target.

Still not enough really. The fact remains that at the end of the day, you still have half your sniper which can either continue sniping or call in artillery/provide support, and your opponent whom only has one lone sniper has nothing. It doesn't matter that cost are high, it's the fact that even if the reinforce matched the buy cost, it would be useless to reinforce. You'd just make another 2 man squad. Then you'd have 3 sniper/spotter units.
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Re: THQ will develop a new Company of Heroes game
« Reply #218 on: August 21, 2012, 07:51:11 PM »
Yeah and plus, I dont think COH2 will have bought vet this time around AFAIK. So while one sniper gets to keep vet the other loses everything.

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Re: THQ will develop a new Company of Heroes game
« Reply #219 on: August 22, 2012, 04:02:08 PM »
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Re: THQ will develop a new Company of Heroes game
« Reply #220 on: August 22, 2012, 05:28:50 PM »
Well one has to remember all snipers will now be more on the passive side of cloaking. And when you then factor in the Soviet army will probably be more the agressor. It would make sense for their snipers to be able to suffer a bit more comparitively with a potential one man Sniper for the Germans.

I mean if you look at the Soviets. A lot of what they have is much more offensively minded. Much larger squads for even support units does hint at something more minded towards agression. And the losses that comes with it.

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Re: THQ will develop a new Company of Heroes game
« Reply #221 on: August 22, 2012, 06:53:56 PM »
When having a release with 2 factions, they have to be either structurally similar(US and Wehr) or symmetrically balanced(PE and Brits). If you give one side a cloakable, sniping unit you will have to give the opposite faction a similar unit.

I can definately see the 1-mans Wehrmacht sniper returning, with possibly an addition ability or reduced cost to balance out the Soviet sniper team.

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Re: THQ will develop a new Company of Heroes game
« Reply #222 on: August 22, 2012, 06:56:19 PM »
StuG III looks real low poly... as if it was made for CoH1 but never added.

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Re: THQ will develop a new Company of Heroes game
« Reply #224 on: September 03, 2012, 07:36:18 PM »
Its nice to hear torough impressions from actual gamers.
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