Realistic Damage Possible?

[SOSyourself]

Hello everybody!

Ever since I started playing mods such as Blitzkrieg and the Battle of the Bulge, I cannot return to vanilla CoH. I am so used to realistic damage and I prefer is much more! Tanks being one shotted, machine guns tearing apart infantry, things like that.

I have not played eastern front in a while, but from I remember, the damages were similar to the vanilla CoH, with infantry taking forever to die and tanks taking multiple shots in unrealistic manners. This is not to insult this mod by any means! I was just wondering, is there a way to play eastern front with realistic damages, such as those seen in Blitzkrieg and the BotB Mod? Or have these damages already been modded in?

Thank you!

[Pac-Fish]

The damage system is similar to vCOH. In fact Eastern Front is suppose to be an extension to vCOH in a way .

If you wanted to you could always mod EF yourself (no offense meant). Its just realistic damage is not EF's concern as of now

[BurroDiablo]

Normandy 44 is planning to add in Soviets with a realistic damage system.

http://www.moddb.com/mods/normandy-1944-european-theater1

We won't do this however. EF is supposed to act more like an unofficial expansion pack than a mod. Plus, we feel vCoH damage is better on a competitive level.

[Pac-Fish]

Normandy 44 is planning to add in Soviets with a realistic damage system.

http://www.moddb.com/mods/normandy-1944-european-theater1

We won't do this however. EF is supposed to act more like an unofficial expansion pack than a mod. Plus, we feel vCoH damage is better on a competitive level.

Just out of curiosity did you guys (EF devs) lend N44 your models and pictures or did they sorta "borrow" them in a way

[BurroDiablo]

Sweeten gave us some models and helped us with the Soviets AI programming before release in return to use our Soviet models, reskins and stuff in N44.

Before that we had planned to join up with Europe in Ruins to add Soviets to that mod, but it never happened... no idea why.

[Dann88]

 Please aware the different of suggestion and stupid demand, realistic and pathetic attempt to mimic realistic.

[Pac-Fish]

Please aware the different of suggestion and stupid demand, realistic and pathetic attempt to mimic realistic.

Its not really a "stupid demand'. Many people like the idea of realistic damage in order to mimic WW2 battles. He even says:

Hello everybody!

I have not played eastern front in a while, but from I remember, the damages were similar to the vanilla CoH, with infantry taking forever to die and tanks taking multiple shots in unrealistic manners. This is not to insult this mod by any means!

[Tankbuster]

Does anyone have any idea when N44 will be released (with soviets)

[Dann88]

Problem is just make the damage high a lot cannot be enough for the realistic. 57mm fire 1,2 shot and kill tiger? MG slaughter rifle even they're in cover? And what about the LOS, the range, the penetration, the accuracy? In real the soldiers don't stick close together to get killed by MG too. Blitzkrieg's damage system make the game like a pointless slaughter.
From here is my opinion: compstomp combine with blitzkrieg's damage system is the most retard kind of playing CoH. I rarely hold grude to anything except this.
I don't mean to offense anyone. Hate the damage system not the players.

[Celution]

Dann88: Do not post offensive or insulting posts, nobody is waiting for someone to make a pointless reply to their topic, no matter what it is about. Nothing about this question is stupid, nor it being a demand.

Besides, if you balance is well, it is very well possible to create a more lethal weapon system which wouldn't make the game a total slaughter or make tank x ruling the battlefield.

However as Burro said, EF isn't a normal mod, we try to be an unofficial expansion pack, which adds the soviets and soon ostheer on a vCoH way with vCoH balance.

[BurroDiablo]

I personally don't like realistic damage in CoH either. I used to, N44 was my first mod and I remember suggesting (stupidly) a realistic damage system to the EF team when I joined

Men of War for the win if you want some kind of realism

[Celution]

Sure, but MoW really isn't as fun in gameplay.

[cephalos]

Sure, but MoW really isn't as fun in gameplay.

I don't agree with you.

[Ghost]

about "realism":
i don't think any simulation/game will ever be realistic.
mods like blitzkrieg or botb or n44 or whatsoever don't have a realistic damage system. they might be closer to realism than vCoH but still they won't even get near it.
imagine a realisitc CoH:
"you build a tank and boom same moment the tiger2 kills it, because it's realistic for him to kill every allied tank from 2 miles away that would be realistic."

[stealthattack1]

im with celestial on this one. i think COH is just more fun.

ghost is right. its impossible to make a game that realistic. even if it were possible, it would be extremely imbalanced, and not very fun.