New Balancers wanted!

[Ghost]

@all those people bashing the balance team:
have you EVER tried to balance a game? that's a time consuming task, but the balance team is doing a great job (btw thanks guys for sacrificing your free time). if you don't believe: try to download the first EF version and take a look at what happenend since then 

so how about we all go back to topic now?

[Blackbishop]

Almost one page filled with unnecessary comments.. hey guys settle down this issue NOW. There's no benefit for anyone being engaged in this argument so there's no need to continue this.

[Blackbishop]

@Dann88
Don't forget to attach a replay.

[Blackbishop]

Oh, sorry.

[Walentin 'Walki' L.]

I'm willingly learn more about Soviet strategic before upload a Soviet replay. I didn't know any offcial Soviet's build order until now Sorry

[...]should understand the (USSR-) gameplay-design[...]

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[stealthattack1]

this is partly the reason i didnt apply.

[Baralhaum]

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Also, you are contradicting yourself. If we cannot get decent balancers how are we going to balance, let's say US vs US? Does allowing such proposal helps EF at all?

Unless you want a mindless game, everything here needs balance.

I hope the first question is a joke. Helps cause more players gona join, running away from Vanilla unbalance or looking for something new.

I dont want a mindless game, i just feel sad to log in on EF, found 3 or 4 skirmishes and no basic matchs.

[Baralhaum]

Play NHC combiner mod. That will whet your mirror appetite.

Not exactly what i want, but is a good. Thanks for the tip.

[Max 'DonXavi' von B.]

I dont want a mindless game, i just feel sad to log in on EF, found 3 or 4 skirmishes and no basic matchs.

And exactly that is the problem, this attitude is crucial for Eastern Front. People always complain that there are no basic matches and leave. How the heck should it be able to establish if players like you keep on doing that? Bring some patience, get yourself a beer or a coffee, depends on your choice. You could also take a trip to the forums and ask for a game, there is always someone willing to play.

[Baralhaum]

With the current balance i just dont like to play. On the past, i used to host a game, wait 10 mins, without a match.

[Max 'DonXavi' von B.]

What's wrong with the current balance compared to how it used to be in former versions? The latter were a disaster, the Red Army was more than OP, it just steamrolled everything that crossed its way. Wait for 1.6, the final Soviet balance patch. Then I'd like to hear what you've got to say.

[Baralhaum]

People who say "final" or "definitive" patch is too optimistic. COH is too complex for it.

[Max 'DonXavi' von B.]

That's true, even Relic didn't achieve a perfect balance after five years of development and various patches, so how should a small balance team of 5 or 6 guys be able to do that, working without getting paid? But I guarantee you, I played the internal beta for 1.6 and Soviets come very close to that which is defined as "final(ly)" or "definitive(ly)" balanced.

[Blackbishop]

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Also, you are contradicting yourself. If we cannot get decent balancers how are we going to balance, let's say US vs US? Does allowing such proposal helps EF at all?

Unless you want a mindless game, everything here needs balance.

I hope the first question is a joke. Helps cause more players gona join, running away from Vanilla unbalance or looking for something new.

I dont want a mindless game, i just feel sad to log in on EF, found 3 or 4 skirmishes and no basic matchs.

I don't really think that allowing mirrored matches would bring the kind players we are looking for. Relic never intended to do it, that's why we haven't done such thing.

[Blackbishop]

What's wrong with the current balance compared to how it used to be in former versions? The latter were a disaster, the Red Army was more than OP, it just steamrolled everything that crossed its way. Wait for 1.6, the final Soviet balance patch. Then I'd like to hear what you've got to say.

That's what I keep thinking when I see someone saying how broken soviets are .