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Stolen German stuff used by Soviets
« on: December 17, 2011, 05:53:11 PM »
What happened to stuff like vehicles, small arms, and other stuff like communications that the Soviets capture from the Germans? How exactly would they be able to use captured tanks? I also see lots of pictures with Red Army troops with MP40s.
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Re: Stolen German stuff used by Soviets
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2011, 10:15:02 PM »
They didnt use them in battle as much like the Germans ( who were pros in that category!) . Many times they captured the tanks to let the science guys take a look at them to develop own better tanks or weapon against them ^^ The red army guys with mp40s are probaly men who wanted a smg for close combat but didn´t get their hands on russian smgs or maybe prefered german ones like slower fire rate, better cartridges etc .

 Many of the smallarms they captured they later during the cold war sent to communist friendly nations to aid them. The North Vietnamese used tons of German ww2 weapons for example.
Even german helmets ( not absolutely sure about that one. But Iam pretty sure of have seen pics of it!)

Just that part we discussed in my old Vietnam thread ^^

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Re: Stolen German stuff used by Soviets
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2011, 10:19:02 PM »
i think somm's about summed it up. but i do think that the soviets used captured weapons and tanks when they were avaliable.


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Re: Stolen German stuff used by Soviets
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2011, 10:21:55 PM »
Your are so right Stealthy. Its not like they didnt use them at all! I think they used them. Just not in the same scale as the germans ;)
I know that the russians used panzerfausts as ¨dooropeners¨ in the battle of Berlin ^^

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Re: Stolen German stuff used by Soviets
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2011, 02:23:26 AM »
Actually the Russians used Panzerfausts whenever they could , they even had an official designation of RPG-1, iirc. Don't forget that they had few usable AT weapons other than American Lend-Lease bazookas which mainly went to Guard units if they ever went out anywhere, AT grenades which are quite useless in long range engagements,  and PTRD and PTRS AT rifles which were quite useless against anything with more armor than a Panzer 2.

Also many captured Panther were used, as a matter of fact I recall that they were often used as combat trophies, with high ranking Soviet Tank COs getting them for their crews and often using them until they ran out of spare parts or rounds. Again this occurred rarely in Guard Tank units, I doubt anywhere else however (maybe in Heavy Tank battalions, there was a rumor in my great-grandpa's staff office (he was the Chief Medical Officer of the entire Belorussian Front) that somebody from a Heavy Tank unit stole a Tiger II and rode around on it into Czechoslovakia, no photos of it though :( )

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Re: Stolen German stuff used by Soviets
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2011, 04:36:33 AM »
Soviets had quite a lot of SU-76i's built on Panzer III chassis, captured mostly at Stalingrad.



Also found these interesting images of Soviets with German tanks...



















« Last Edit: December 18, 2011, 04:40:25 AM by BurroDiablo »

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Re: Stolen German stuff used by Soviets
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2011, 07:28:28 AM »
You posted your pics twice burrodiablo :P

I like the StuG with the Red Star  ;D

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Re: Stolen German stuff used by Soviets
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2011, 01:52:38 PM »
Yeah, forum was being slow last night when I posted this ;D

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Re: Stolen German stuff used by Soviets
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2011, 02:00:25 PM »
Some pics:



Panzer 38t



Hummel



Marder



Thats a very interesting pic too: Shows a recaptured T70 and in the background german pows (near Kiev)

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Re: Stolen German stuff used by Soviets
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2011, 07:02:33 PM »
Looks like that T-70 is missing a track-guard, Germans must have crashed it ;D

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Re: Stolen German stuff used by Soviets
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2011, 07:06:26 PM »
Looks like that T-70 is missing a track-guard, Germans must have crashed it ;D

Actually, the commander removed it to get a more authentic OffRoad-feeling   :P

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Re: Stolen German stuff used by Soviets
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2011, 08:58:18 PM »
the soviets captured many german tanks and used them for various purposes. a bunch of stug III and panzer III/IV were captured with a few SG122 assault guns armed with a 122mm howitzer, and the the rest into SU76i, which mounted a F34 76mm gun

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Panthers which were captured were only given to guards units depending on how well they performed, pretty much giving the best to the best
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Re: Stolen German stuff used by Soviets
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2011, 09:13:19 PM »
I guess the conscripts or ordinary soldiers didnt get any German tanks did they?

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Re: Stolen German stuff used by Soviets
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2011, 02:31:38 AM »
I like these pictures! Where are you getting them? it's like porn  :) lol.
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Re: Stolen German stuff used by Soviets
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2011, 07:23:25 AM »
Most pics don't work for me  :'(
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