Tiger Ace

[Tankbuster]

Correction KT is THE beast.

[Joshua9]

I'm not going all in on this position,

but I feel like as is, when I'm playing against wher I would much rather see him pop the KT than the Tiger Ace.  The speed is really everything, making the Tiger Ace just as survivable in a way, because it can get out of a scrape and go get repaired.  500 HP difference, less shell damage, FAST move speed and turret speed and as a result, maybe more effective at dishing out damage

it seems more effective to me as a game changer because it can actually push the enemy off more than one vp, and just as effective as a game clencher.  That may just be that it is more effective against my style of play, but I have the concern(though possibly unfounded) that it is due to being the better unit. 

That apparently doesn't seem to be the consensus though, and the verdict is out here too, but thought it worth mentioning.

[stealthattack1]

I'm not going all in on this position,

but I feel like as is, when I'm playing against wher I would much rather see him pop the KT than the Tiger Ace.  The speed is really everything, making the Tiger Ace just as survivable in a way, because it can get out of a scrape and go get repaired.  500 HP difference, less shell damage, FAST move speed and turret speed and as a result, maybe more effective at dishing out damage

it seems more effective to me as a game changer because it can actually push the enemy off more than one vp, and just as effective as a game clencher.  That may just be that it is more effective against my style of play, but I have the concern(though possibly unfounded) that it is due to being the better unit. 

That apparently doesn't seem to be the consensus though, and the verdict is out here too, but thought it worth mentioning.

QFT

[Pac-Fish]

I kinda agree. Someone might have the KT sitting at a VP, beating back soliders. The Tiger Ace, however, has the speed to defend say, 2 VPs . Maybe not as effctively but you get the point

@Joshua9: Are you suggesting the Tiger Ace is too powerful

[GodlikeDennis]

The KT can be used as a Steamroller, to just barge its way toward the enemy without needing to stop, kite or micro. With support, a KT is absolutely unstoppable. An Ace must be used as a precision tool and requires a lot of micro. It is better when used by itself to harass forces weaker than itself and dominate small groups on infantry. Both are good in their own way. I personally prefer the Ace, other good players prefer the KT. It's all about personal choice really.

[Mass Killer DL]

Tbh I just think it needs something new some sort of ability to make it worth getting... Why go for the Tiger Ace when you can go Blitz and get an unlimited amount of Tigers that are just as good as the Tiger Ace and not have to worry about losing the Tiger as you can always replace it with another Tiger same stats etc.

The Tiger Ace just needs something to improve it otherwise a player may as well choose the Blitz doc over the Terror or just use the KT over the Ace

[Tankbuster]

Tbh I just think it needs something new some sort of ability to make it worth getting... Why go for the Tiger Ace when you can go Blitz and get an unlimited amount of Tigers that are just as good as the Tiger Ace and not have to worry about losing the Tiger as you can always replace it with another Tiger same stats etc.

The Tiger Ace just needs something to improve it otherwise a player may as well choose the Blitz doc over the Terror or just use the KT over the Ace

New sounds and new abilities?

[Mass Killer DL]

Did I say something about sounds? What do you mean by new sounds?

I meant upgrading the Ace with a new ability would make it worth getting over the Blitz Tiger

[Tankbuster]

What I meant was that the ace has the same sound as the Wehr Tiger. Adding new sounds would make it more unique. Of course this will be a cosmetic change. Personally, I would like the ace to cloak itself or an auto repair ability.

[stealthattack1]

LMAO, a cloaked TANK?? that is hilarious, lol, not to mention a tiger. that's a good one. anyways, the "abilities" it has is manuverability and speed. its a reward unit, therefore if you like the KT better, use it. the tiger ace doesnt need a buff IMO.

[Mass Killer DL]

@Tankbuster So you mean like a Camo scheme allowing it to get off one shot before engaging in combat much like the Pak 38?

Its a nice idea to think of but it may prove to be a little OP, but the Dev's could tweak and balance it somehow I presume?

@Stealthattack1 but saying that a player may as well just choose a "Normal" Wehr Tiger that they could call in numerous times rather than having a one time call in with essentially the same stats maybe a little stronger

[Pac-Fish]

LMAO, a cloaked TANK?? that is hilarious, lol, not to mention a tiger. that's a good one. anyways, the "abilities" it has is manuverability and speed. its a reward unit, therefore if you like the KT better, use it. the tiger ace doesnt need a buff IMO.

Umm Hetzers can cloak. And those mofos are huge. Dont even get me started on the "diminutive size" . Cause if you cant see that thing then u should not have a gun.

Anyways I think the Tiger Ace needs something unique, not just powerful. Just like why get Grens instead of sticking to Volks? Not only are they powerful, they can use shrecks and MG42 and nade. Why use rifleman over Rangers when it comes to AI? Cause they have sprint and submachine guns and elite armor. I could go on but I wont .

Maybe the Tiger Ace can get something sorta useless or not game changing, but special . And use the old Tiger Ace sounds if possible

[stealthattack1]

Umm Hetzers can cloak.

 i didnt know that. anyways, my point was to say that the tiger ace is good as it is.

[Pac-Fish]

Umm Hetzers can cloak.

 i didnt know that. anyways, my point was to say that the tiger ace is good as it is.

But it needs something so it doesnt just look like a Tiger with like double the horse power and black camo (which is kinda is atm)

BTW I notice you're a Guard now. Hooray

[stealthattack1]

why thank you fish. and i do agree that some improvements for the tiger ace would be nice, i just feel that it doesnt need it.