Possibility of returning

[Kevla99]

I'm not hating on the tiger ace >_<. I do like it, but certainly except putting a reward unit like that you guys could change the stats of the 205 reward tiger, giving the option of either the strength of a tank killer for the original tiger, and have the elite speed and accuracy of the tiger ace. As for the jagdtiger, it can basically be a support gun role, same armor and speed as the king tiger, but only a slighty better gun. Like I said in my other comment, I don't mind about the tiger ace, it just seems really useless if you add another tiger as a reward unit, but really only need to just change the skin and restat the reward tiger we already have. (Noted before in the comment: Its just matter of opinion, I love the EF mod and support the developers and members of this community and their judgement. I am only just putting this as something you may think about =/)

[Tankbuster]

EF seems to be becoming a zoo


We have
Bergetiger; Tiger I; Tiger II; Tiger Ace; Tiger 205
Panther; Jagdpanther
Hummel; Nashorn
Soon we will have the
Elefant; Wespe

[Pac-Fish]

A german zoo . The is also the ISU-152 which is an "animal killer" and the henshel (plz forgive the spelling) King Tiger.

[Sommarkatze]

The Tiger ace rocks! Its the ultimate infantry blobkiller! The only thing I got against it its the skin. I would rather have an Panther II or something ( prototypes YEAH <3) Now its a black tiger 1. Dont get me wrong I think its awesome. But I know that in many peoples eyes this looks like somekind of batmobile warhammer rock and roll merchandise tank just because of thatXD

Do we know what unit the jagdtiger will replace?  The wehr 88 ? ;o

[Killar]

i know  but can´t tell you


A faster tiger is very deadly. It can hit, do much damage and retreat in the FOW again. Thats why it was in the Terror doctrine from the beginning. It fits perfectly the "terror" theme. I wouldn´t call it just another tiger because the speed makes the difference.


EF won´t change vcoh faction units. Thats why tiger205 reward will be kept untouched even if its a bit sensless.


Jagdtiger is indeed a support unit, the jagdpanther can fight on its own.

[Mass Killer DL]

i know  but can´t tell you


A faster tiger is very deadly. It can hit, do much damage and retreat in the FOW again. Thats why it was in the Terror doctrine from the beginning. It fits perfectly the "terror" theme. I wouldn´t call it just another tiger because the speed makes the difference.


EF won´t change vcoh faction units. Thats why tiger205 reward will be kept untouched even if its a bit sensless.


Jagdtiger is indeed a support unit, the jagdpanther can fight on its own.

Damn you and your secrets! :p

And now now we have had this discusion Tiger Ace sucks , Nah JK I'm not a fan of the Tiger Ace but it does fit the doctrine so I can't complain ... To much

[stealthattack1]

the facts are these,
                                1; the tiger ace is a very versatile unit that can out-flank other units easily, and even be put up against a superior unit, damage it, and still get away with low health.
                                2; the king tiger is an extremely powerful unit that can devastate other units without having to flank, and when backed up by other tanks, is almost unstoppable.
whether you prefer the tiger ace, or the KT, is up to your play style, both units are great, and neither one "suck."

[Chancellor]

Tiger Ace does suck right now, but with the new planned changes to Crack Shot, if the cool-down is not managed properly, it may potentially become slightly OP next patch.

[Pac-Fish]

Some times I feel like TA is like a fast Tiger. Thats all . When Crack Shot is improved then it'll be better I guess

[stealthattack1]

Tiger Ace does suck right now

i disagree.

[Pac-Fish]

Tiger Ace does suck right now

i disagree.

I think Yauz means it sucks compared to the KT

[stealthattack1]

either way.

[Chancellor]

Some times I feel like TA is like a fast Tiger. Thats all . When Crack Shot is improved then it'll be better I guess

That's the thing.  Movement speed is mostly irrelevant in high level matches, especially for a 1-time call-in.  Some noobs may think otherwise, but this is the truth.  Reload speed is a whole different story, but I don't think the TA shoots significantly faster than the KT.

In the end, it mainly all comes down to gun stats and health / armor.  The TA currently has a strong gun versus infantry, and a weak gun versus heavy tanks that cannot even penetrate an IS-2 reliably, while the KT's gun is effective versus armor and weaker versus infantry.  So the guns are pretty equal, they are just specialized in different areas, but as for the health / armor, the KT has the upper hand by far.  Armor and health will help a lot more than unit speed in terms of survivability.

[Pac-Fish]

I think the KT is pretty effective vs Infantry when its shots actually hit. IDK its accuracy but IMO the Tiger is better

[stealthattack1]

which tiger though? ace or king?