Char b1 Reward unit

[Cranialwizard]

My only issue is the question of where would it go? It doesn't fit in the Ostheer Foreign because it was not an axis tank and the soviets didn't really use these. I suppose it could be implemented in the RMC SOMEHOW but I'm skeptical of even that.

Other than misplacement, decent suggestion.

[trollgore]

Ahh sorry i should point i didn't actually specifically want this for the Ostheer, rather its for any of the German factions that's why its not in the unit suggestion thread.  i've edited the original post just to add that point in. 

Also in terms of what it could replace i was wondering about it being a reward for the Stuh 42 in the Blitz doctrine.

+1, blitz doctrine would be perfect place if you give the char a flame turret. it will still have the same job description as the stuh42, can take down emplacements and deal with infantry blobbing. i vote bring this in the future, but not now. i want ostheer first

[Cranialwizard]

It's a FRENCH tanks as in ALLIED...

[GodlikeDennis]

Hotchkiss and GWagon are French tanks. Germany captured more than soil you know .

I agree though, the only faction that has a chance to see this unit is RMC but even that's a long shot.

[neosdark]

Why can't we replace the Brummbar with this Lovely beast Denis?

Compared to the Brummbar the Char B has a smaller gun (75mm gun similar to the Sherman, in caliber not cannon type) and quicker reload time, also being slower, but slightly more well armored, however we could give it a Flamethrower as part of its Veterancy, at first disabling the Main gun and when it reaches ACE it gets the Main gun and a Flamethrower at the same time

[Pac-Fish]

Why can't we replace the Brummbar with this Lovely beast Denis?

Compared to the Brummbar the Char B has a smaller gun (75mm gun similar to the Sherman, in caliber not cannon type) and quicker reload time, also being slower, but slightly more well armored, however we could give it a Flamethrower as part of its Veterancy, at first disabling the Main gun and when it reaches ACE it gets the Main gun and a Flamethrower at the same time

That sounds kinda cool

[Mad hatters in jeans]

germans with flame tank. yeessss.

[vonklaus]

Sorry to offend anyone

Im done

[Killar]

not only ignorant but a historical noob too.

---> The Panzerkampfwagen B2 740(f) = B1bis in German hands
About 160 B2(f) tanks were used by the German army :
· Panzerkampfwagen B2(f)
· 10.5cm leFH18/3 auf Geschützwagen B2(f) (18 converted in 1942)
· Flammenwerferpanzer Renault B2 (f), retaining the turret-mounted 47mm, but with the hull-mounted 75mm replaced by a flamethrower (60 converted)
· Fahrschulpanzer B2(f) (turretless)

The first units equipped with B2 flame tanks were the 7th companies of Pz.Rgt.201 and 202, which were regrouped in 1941 in Pz.Abt.102 and engaged on the eastern front. Char B2(f) and B2(f) flame tanks were used during Barbarossa to reduce and destroy Russian fortifications in the summer of 1941. Pz.Abt.213 was later equipped with B2 tanks and stationed in French islands in the Channel.
Pz.Abt.206 was formed in November 1941 at Satory (near Paris), this battalion was used as a reserve unit for the 7.Armee. Wedged in Cherbourg, this unit was destroyed there. Its composition in beginning 1944 included 2 companies of 10 Hotchkiss H39 and 4 Somua S35s (in each company) and one "Stab Kompanie" of 3 Renault B2, 3 Renault B2 flamethrower, 2 Somua S35 and 2 Renault R35. Many such small units were formed with French booty/converted tanks like the Pz.Abt.100 committed to 91.ID in Normandy in 1944 (1 Somua S35, 8 Hotchkiss H39, 14 Renault R35, 1 Flammenwerferpanzer Renault B2, 1 PzIII and 5 FT17c) and the 21. Pz.D. included many French tanks.
Pz.Abt.223 was formed (attached to 22.PzD) with Char B2 flame tanks and was engaged in battles near Sevastopol in 1942. This unit was then expanded to include 2 panzer companies and command elements with a second company composed of 5 B2 and 12 B2 (Fl = flamethrower).
Different other units were also equipped with B2(f) tanks : Pz.Abt.224 in the Netherlands (engaged in Arnhem and Oosterbeek in 1944), two companies of the Pz.Rgt.100 in France and one company of 17 B2 from SS Pz.Abt.7 (SS 'Prinz Eugen' division) in the Balkans. In February 1945, 40 B2(f) tanks were still in service in the German army. Late war B2(f) had sometimes a kind of Zimmerit/concrete on their armor, at least on the turret. The B2(f) Flammpanzer could fire about 200x 2-3 seconds "napalm" shots. The French troops reused several B1bis captured in France, especially against German pockets on the western coast.

Hungarians and Romanians used mainly german tanks because their own were crap.

[Jeff 'Robotnik' W.]

THIS IS ONE OF THE WORST IDEAS EVER SUGGESTED!!!!!!!

There are atleast 50 more diffrent vehicles that would be more historically accurate than a tank that is slow and doubtfully even used on easternfront. The Hungargians had there own tanks and assualt guns as well as the Italians. Romania would be a good nation to use the pt-38, and the Finns shoulkd have Stugs which could be vetted or had some variation of stats because historically that was there main armored weapon and they used them more effectively than any other nation. If i SEE FRENCH TANKS ROLLING UP I WILL NEVER USE OSTEER FOREIGN BATTLE GROUP.

If I was a mod I would delete this thread not just lock it its such a bad idea. Id rather see the Maus.


Now for a French mod this tank would be perfect.

The maus will NEVER be included. read this for more info

http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=5672.0

[Pauly3]

brummbär replacement sounds kinda cool
 

[Max 'DonXavi' von B.]

brummbär replacement sounds kinda cool
 

+1

[One-eye]

THIS IS ONE OF THE WORST IDEAS EVER SUGGESTED!!!!!!!

There are atleast 50 more diffrent vehicles that would be more historically accurate than a tank that is slow and doubtfully even used on easternfront. The Hungargians had there own tanks and assualt guns as well as the Italians. Romania would be a good nation to use the pt-38, and the Finns shoulkd have Stugs which could be vetted or had some variation of stats because historically that was there main armored weapon and they used them more effectively than any other nation. If i SEE FRENCH TANKS ROLLING UP I WILL NEVER USE OSTEER FOREIGN BATTLE GROUP.

If I was a mod I would delete this thread not just lock it its such a bad idea. Id rather see the Maus.


Now for a French mod this tank would be perfect.

If i were a mod i would ban you because your either 6 years old or have a mental age of 6. 

I really can't tell if your trolling or just incredibly stupid.

You obviously haven't even read the original post properly so i'm going to go with stupid.

Ok back on topic, so far we have:

1.  Replacement for the Stuh 42 in the Blitz doctrine for Wehrmacht.

2.  Replacement for the Brummbar for the Ostheer. 

Any one have any idea if this could be slotted in the Panzer Elite anywhere?  As i mentioned before it was used in Market Garden but i'm kind of drawing a blank on what it could be a reward for.

[Blackbishop]

It could be added to the OH battlegroup . We could look to add it there later if there's a positive reaction (coughLordRommelcough, coughBurroDiablocough)... does someone has some medicine for my cough .

[cephalos]

well... I don't understand this well... but you want to make a replacement of any of the useful units OH or WH has with this french crap? lol, it's all I have to say in this matter. Why wouldn't we give OH captured T-34? Or KV-1? Those tanks were at least used on EF and we are 100% sure ^^
and captured tank makes total difference in faction. And it requires also model and skin. And animation. And I guess devs have a lot of other stuff to do than this... thing.