Char b1 Reward unit

[One-eye]

A French tank, are you taking the p*ss?

No i'm serious theirs a fairly good case to include this! 

....right go on then

After the fall of France in 1940 the Wehrmacht acquired a large number of captured French vehicles including several already included in Coh.  Apart from the Hotchkiss light tank and those converted into Geschutzwagen's the Germans captured a number of SOMUA S35's and around 160 Char B1 tanks. 

The Hotchkiss is kind of rubbish why do we want more French tanks?

Well, for one thing the Char b1 is a lot more heavily armed and armoured than the Hotchkiss and proved a tough challenge for early war German Panzer's.  On top of this 60 of the Char b1's were converted into Flammwagen PzKpfw B-2(f) with the 75mm hull mounted gun replaced with a flame thrower. 

Ok a Flame thrower tank that could be interesting, where were they used?

Well The 223rd Panzerkompanie took 12 to the Crimea in the summer of 1942 and The 7th SS Prinz Eugen also used some in the Balkans.  On top of this Kampfgruppe von Tettau used them to help defend against the British during Operation Market Garden.  So they saw use on both fronts of the war right through the war. 

As such i thought it could be used as a reward for any of the 3 German factions, especially considering the PE WH are in need of an extra reward unit to match the number available to the allies. 

Thoughts ?

[Pac-Fish]

Where would it go . Only spot is Ostheer. And they weren't used that much. But they look cool

[neosdark]

I've always been a man of the weird and plain interesting, in my eyes this would be a lovely unit as a replacement for the Brummbar, similar in function, however being slower and having slightly more armor.

As for the Flamm version i doubt that, because as many of us have been told before animating and creating the Flame Tanks flame is quite a job, though we should keep our hopes up, as the were able to make a WASP Bren Carrier in NHC and some other mods, as well as Dmz talking about building a Flamm-Hetzer.

EDIT: However there is a Reward Unit Suggestion Thread which I believe this topic should be redirected to.

[Killar]

There is a unit suggestion Thread for this. Pls post there again.

There is a offmap battle group for the Ostheer where foreign tanks can be called in 

I think there will be quite a surprise. At least 3 different tanks i think

[Paciat]

There is a unit suggestion Thread for this. Pls post there again.

There is a offmap battle group for the Ostheer where foreign tanks can be called in 

I think there will be quite a surprise. At least 3 different tanks i think

Ostheer Foreign Groop shoold be as non German as possible. I dont want to see wehrmacht soldiers in captured equipment, I want to see tanks made in Central Europe with soldiers from Central Europe in them.

[Killar]

Weren´t captured equipment used by german allies too alongside german equipment?

Only italy used mostly own tanks (but it don´t think at the eastern front). All other allies of germany used mostly either captured soviet equipment or german tanks (sczech tanks too).

[Pac-Fish]

I think Paciat wants it to be unique, not historically accurate . I wouldn't even know any foreign tanks so whatever the devs put is fine for me

[Killar]

Can be unique of course. T38, a french tank (Somua would be my favourite) and a italian tank (Semovente) would be awesome  and aren´t ingame yet.

[Pac-Fish]

I'd like to see some Italian tanks too

[Paciat]

I think Paciat wants it to be unique, not historically accurate .

Yep, I want Italian infantry and tanks with Italian speech. There also is a Czech version of COH but I dont know if the speach was also translated (or wasit only a text translation).

[Killar]

french speech could be an option too. There were french soldiers fighting along the germans against the soviet union too.

[One-eye]

Ahh sorry i should point i didn't actually specifically want this for the Ostheer, rather its for any of the German factions that's why its not in the unit suggestion thread.  i've edited the original post just to add that point in. 

Also in terms of what it could replace i was wondering about it being a reward for the Stuh 42 in the Blitz doctrine. 

[Otto Halfhand]

A Char B would be an interesting addition to the CoH TO&E but can it be properly modeled and animated?

If so I think an M3 Lee or Grant  be a nice addition to to Soviet Line-up as reward unit for SU76. Not nearly as OP as the M4a3 w/ T2 AP Shells.... For those who do not understand the CharB Lee and Grant all have a Sponson or hull mounted Cannon and a Secondary turret mounted cannon.

[Mass Killer DL]

I would like to see this tank implemented into COH also, but it may be rather awkward to animate?

Though it would make a fine addition to the German arsenal, I wouldn't mind my Stormtroopers storming the Russian's with this tank at their side

[One-eye]

I believe it could be animated in the same manner as the Churchill Croc.  Although, i'm aware that's not the best animated unit ever created the basic principle would be the same.