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Offline trollgore

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SU-100
« on: September 06, 2011, 12:10:37 AM »
Does anyone miss the SU-100. i sure do, it was the best tank to take on panthers imo. it should be brought back as a reward unit maybe?
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Re: SU-100
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2011, 12:20:54 AM »
What would you replace to bring it back? I don't think it has a place on EF atm.
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Re: SU-100
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2011, 12:25:23 AM »
hmmm maybe it could be a call in unit in maybe breathrough strat? you know like a reward unit to replace su76. and to keep it balanced have a limit on how many you can call in and make it a little more expensive then the su76
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Re: SU-100
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2011, 12:31:41 AM »
Sounds like a neat idea. I really want to try it ;D since I didn't get a chance b4 1.4 came out :(

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Re: SU-100
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2011, 12:54:39 AM »
Now I'm confused ???

Do you want to add the SU-100 as it was before or do you want to just use it in EF?

There's no way a SU-100 with their former stats can be the replacement of the SU-76. It would need to be nerfed and I don't think someone wants a SU-100 which is mere shadow of what used to be.

What would be the differences between SU-100 and SU-76?

The SU-100 that everyone knows has:

* More armour than SU-76.
* More firepower than SU-76.
* Less speed/acceleration than SU-76.

So why bothering to choose the SU-76?

Hence, SU-100 is not coming back.
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Re: SU-100
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2011, 01:03:57 AM »
I see what you are saying. su100 was great and even better than su76. but to balance it, have it called only 2 at a time at a much higher manpower cost, maybe 700. su76 still will have the ap shells while su100 only has its standard cannon. imo choosing the su76 will mean unlimited call ins, ap shells, and its gun has a small traverse. su100 just has a large but effective cannon.
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Re: SU-100
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2011, 01:10:06 AM »
I see what you are saying. su100 was great and even better than su76. but to balance it, have it called only 2 at a time at a much higher manpower cost, maybe 700. su76 still will have the ap shells while su100 only has its standard cannon. imo choosing the su76 will mean unlimited call ins, ap shells, and its gun has a small traverse. su100 just has a large but effective cannon.

Let me think.

No.

Case closed. SU-100 isn't coming back. It's a nice model but we just have way too much stuff.
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Re: SU-100
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2011, 01:12:58 AM »
I see what you are saying. su100 was great and even better than su76. but to balance it, have it called only 2 at a time at a much higher manpower cost, maybe 700. su76 still will have the ap shells while su100 only has its standard cannon. imo choosing the su76 will mean unlimited call ins, ap shells, and its gun has a small traverse. su100 just has a large but effective cannon.

Let me think.

No.

Case closed. SU-100 isn't coming back. It's a nice model but we just have way too much stuff.

I like how your very frank with your explainations ;D

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Re: SU-100
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2011, 01:28:11 AM »
I see what you are saying. su100 was great and even better than su76. but to balance it, have it called only 2 at a time at a much higher manpower cost, maybe 700.
700? More MP cost than a IS-2 or a Panther?  :D :D :D You really think this will ballance it?

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Re: SU-100
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2011, 01:30:41 AM »
Let me think.

No.

Case closed. SU-100 isn't coming back. It's a nice model but we just have way too much stuff.

I like how your very frank with your explainations ;D

Because I have several reasons to refuse the SU-100's return, in which I do not want to write a lengthily paragraph for a commonly asked question that's been repeatedly denied.

I see what you are saying. su100 was great and even better than su76. but to balance it, have it called only 2 at a time at a much higher manpower cost, maybe 700.
700? More MP cost than a IS-2 or a Panther?  :D :D :D You really think this will ballance it?


That's actually one of the reasons why I said no. 700 mp? You're kidding no? That's 540 mp extra than what it used to cost.
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Re: SU-100
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2011, 01:41:55 AM »
LOL maybe Soviets could get SU-100 battle group. Similar to Panther battle group ;D.

PE player: "You're pissing me off! Im sending my Panthers at you. Muhahaha"
SU player: "Oh yeah? I'll send in My Su-100 Battle group at you. Biatch!!"
PE player: "HOLY SHIITTT!"

*rage quit*

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Re: SU-100
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2011, 01:48:06 AM »
SU100 could have its place in the campaign, but not in the current faction. We canĀ“t implement every vehicle the soviets had.

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Re: SU-100
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2011, 01:53:40 AM »
@killar

YAY, its gonna make a cameo in the campaign thats gonna come out next year!!!!! lol
ohh well, i still do like the su100 as a reward call in unit, but its my opinion
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Re: SU-100
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2011, 07:47:50 AM »
Actually SU-100 was pretty cool, how cool it would be today IF balanced. But I'll join others - EF doesn't need SU-100 for now.

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Re: SU-100
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2011, 11:58:43 AM »
Actually SU-100 was pretty cool, how cool it would be today IF balanced. But I'll join others - EF doesn't need SU-100 for now.

Actually I think EF does, but no one agrees with my balance concerns :P