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Offline Lt.Gottlieb

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[1.501] Main Guns nerfed or Armor buffed?
« on: September 05, 2011, 01:44:18 PM »
OK,this time i used search and i couldn't find any thread about this issue in 1.501.

I was playing a game vs a hard cpu, wehr against russians. they deployed a T70 light tank,i had no fuel,so i got a ostwind to blast him to oblivion. but surprise, it got his ass handed to him! the ostwind sometimes didn't even penetrate the T70 rear armor?! till now light tanks like M8 were no big deal for a ostwind. better yet,the T70 had a good chance of penetrating the front armor of ostwind,which is stupid since it's a Panzer IV chassis.

Later that day i tried US-Army vs wehr. they got StuG,so i clled in a pershing. But the StuGs front armor reflected some of the pershings rounds! i didn't even know that the pershings main gun could be stopped by anything lighter than a tiger or at least panther??

maybe i just oversaw it in earlyer games, but it surprised me pretty much
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Re: [1.501] Main Guns nerfed or Armor buffed?
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2011, 01:54:19 PM »
Quote from: Lt.Gottlieb on September 05, 2011, 01:44:18 PM
I was playing a game vs a hard cpu

Balance discussions are considerate ONLY AND EXCLUSIVELY in "HumanPlayer vs HumanPlayer (1v1 - 2v2)" matchs.

Skirmishes are not argument of balance discussions.
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Re: [1.501] Main Guns nerfed or Armor buffed?
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2011, 01:58:06 PM »
fine, but i don't think that the penetration-values change during Multiplayer/oneplayer, or do they? i don't know
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Re: [1.501] Main Guns nerfed or Armor buffed?
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2011, 05:14:01 PM »
T-70(light tank) will lose vs an Ostwind("medium" tank/Pz. IV variant), seems ok to me.
« Last Edit: September 05, 2011, 05:16:06 PM by blackbishop »
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Re: [1.501] Main Guns nerfed or Armor buffed?
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2011, 05:29:35 PM »
All the medium and heavy tanks have penatration stat of their armor, all of them have a small chance to "reflect" the shot mostly in the front.
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Re: [1.501] Main Guns nerfed or Armor buffed?
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2011, 07:27:53 PM »
Quote from: blackbishop on September 05, 2011, 05:14:01 PM
T-70(light tank) will lose vs an Ostwind("medium" tank/Pz. IV variant), seems ok to me.

No, it doesn't.  The guy's story is credible; Ostwind will lose to T70 for some reason.  I've had this happen to me too.
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Re: [1.501] Main Guns nerfed or Armor buffed?
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2011, 07:56:55 PM »
@Yauz
Time to dig in to the stats :P. Let's check T-70 vs Pz. IV armoured vehicles.

EDIT:

T-70 vs Ostwind -> same than Stuart vs Ostwind but deals -10 damage less than Stuart.

Ostwind vs T-70 -> same than Ostwind vs Stuart but have 0.85 acc instead of 1 like the Stuart.
« Last Edit: September 05, 2011, 08:02:15 PM by blackbishop »
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Re: [1.501] Main Guns nerfed or Armor buffed?
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2011, 10:02:31 PM »
Quote from: Lt.Gottlieb on September 05, 2011, 01:44:18 PM
penetrating the front armor of ostwind,which is stupid since it's a Panzer IV chassis.
Meybe those shots hit the lightly armored turret. ::)
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Later that day i tried US-Army vs wehr. they got StuG,so i clled in a pershing. But the StuGs front armor reflected some of the pershings rounds! i didn't even know that the pershings main gun could be stopped by anything lighter than a tiger or at least panther??
StugIV armor is heavier than PZIV armor (same chassie, lower profile). Its similar  to churchills armor but has less hitpoints. Even PzIV has a slight chance to bounce Pershing shells off.
Get the tank depot gun upgrade (Yes it works on Shermans and the Pershing) and your trouble will be over.
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Re: [1.501] Main Guns nerfed or Armor buffed?
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2011, 11:19:32 PM »
@Paciat
ok thanks i'll try the main gun upgrade, that StuG is one nasty son of a gun ;)
so the t70-armor is simillar to the stuart? well that explains a lot^^
oh and one question, the description of the T90 says something about "fighting the german airforce" (at least it does in the german version), so is the T90 able to attack henschel in the game? i didn't had the chance to test it recently
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Re: [1.501] Main Guns nerfed or Armor buffed?
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2011, 11:24:14 PM »
It is able to fight aircrafts, the T-90 was a SPAAG prototype as a variant of the T-70.

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Re: [1.501] Main Guns nerfed or Armor buffed?
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2011, 11:31:40 PM »
Yes, robotnik fixed the target tables and now allied AA guns like the quad HT and the T-90 can kill planes :P.
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Re: [1.501] Main Guns nerfed or Armor buffed?
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2011, 11:39:50 PM »
@MaxiKing
ok danke,wenn du das sagst muss es ja stimmen ;)
PS: weisst du wie die technologiebäume vom ostheer im deutschen heissen werden? nach doktrin/strategie/kompanie/taktik/unterstützung ist ja so ziemlich alles verbraucht :D
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Re: [1.501] Main Guns nerfed or Armor buffed?
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2011, 11:58:38 PM »
Lads, do I have to remind you this is an english board :P.
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Re: [1.501] Main Guns nerfed or Armor buffed?
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2011, 12:15:16 AM »
haha sry bishop,your right^^

i asked him what the name for the OH-tech tree is gonne be in german,since strategy,company,tactic etc is already used^^
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Re: [1.501] Main Guns nerfed or Armor buffed?
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2011, 05:01:25 AM »
No keep speaking German, helps me learn  ;D

Was in Germany for 4 months last year, don't want to lose my edge.
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