Eastern Front 1.50 Patch

[Cranialwizard]

Downloading now. I read that  you guys added the 85 mm gun. YES I finally get to see the gun in 3D. The last time I saw this gun in a game was in CC3.

It's only in fortress mode...

I don't understand why it's so much more of a bigger deal than PVP

[vonklaus]

are sharpshooters not meant to be used at all before upgrading? Because they aren't very effective they are like 1 man conscript squads. I thought they still should 1 shot killed. I guess they are cheap capping unit but any other way to use them? Seems silly to have anti-inf unit that cant even hurt pioneers.

[Alexander 'ApeMen' J.]

which sense should it have that basic sniper unit can kill with one shot?

nobody would upgrade them if they are already like a sniper...

[Cranialwizard]

are sharpshooters not meant to be used at all before upgrading? Because they aren't very effective they are like 1 man conscript squads. I thought they still should 1 shot killed. I guess they are cheap capping unit but any other way to use them? Seems silly to have anti-inf unit that cant even hurt pioneers.

Sharpshooters have a high damage-high crit mosin, their accuracy isn't perfect though.

[vonklaus]

which sense should it have that basic sniper unit can kill with one shot?

nobody would upgrade them if they are already like a sniper...

no one is going to use them unupgraded so might as well build them upgraded. 1 shot kill wouldnt be bad at all if you lowered fire rate or accuracy and range of fire, If the shot hit right now you hardly notice.

The soviets have changed from an easy to play faction to a hard, but at least late game they aren't hurt as bad by resources anymore.

[Tico_1990]

Ergo, they are not OP anymore

[Cranialwizard]

which sense should it have that basic sniper unit can kill with one shot?

nobody would upgrade them if they are already like a sniper...

no one is going to use them unupgraded so might as well build them upgraded. 1 shot kill wouldnt be bad at all if you lowered fire rate or accuracy and range of fire, If the shot hit right now you hardly notice.

The soviets have changed from an easy to play faction to a hard, but at least late game they aren't hurt as bad by resources anymore.

That's exactly how they are supposed to function. You could spam sharpshooters if you wanted to but it would waste MP as they are fragile.

The former 2 man team of the sniper team was OP. The division now sets clear boundries and allows the team to function more like individual units. Of coruse the sharpshooter is useless. That's why he has the upgrades.

[vonklaus]

i just think its silly and misleading to leave a totally worthless unit in game. I wasted 2 games yesterday figuring out how to use them but they are unusable if winning is your goal. You shouldn't have to upgrade a unit to use it at all.

[Cranialwizard]

i just think its silly and misleading to leave a totally worthless unit in game. I wasted 2 games yesterday figuring out how to use them but they are unusable if winning is your goal. You shouldn't have to upgrade a unit to use it at all.

This is the most balanced approach to the dual functioning team. It's not hard to figure out...you build a basic sharpshooter and then train him to become a sniper or a spotter...

[Pac-Fish]

Soviets snipers in theory are better b/c they come cheap first(idk if they build faster) and you can upgrade them later, making them just like a sniper with the same abilities but for a marginally lower cost(i think).

This means you are not stuck waiting for 340 mp like the other factions. You can also quickly get it on the field .

However you also have the ability to get arty spotters, making them potentially more diverse and useful .

Also if you lose your sniper early(for whatever reason ) and it didn't upgrade its less of a loss for you.

Anyways the sniper does 30 per shot w/o upgrade . Thats pretty significant.

[Gogo]

Guys,can i get help plzz
My patch dosen't work and i installed the 200kb update and still dosen't work
Plzz little help,i srsly wan't to test russians

[GodlikeDennis]

Yes, as Fishhunter said, the basic sharpshooter deals 30 damage which is almost the equivalent of 3 strelky mosins, and I believe his crit chance is a little higher too. If he isn't scratching pios you're blind. Using them to cap is actually a bad idea because they have very slow cap speed. Instead, you can use them in your conscript blob early on to add quite a lot of DPS that the conscripts lack normally until you choose your upgrade later.

[Mr.ious.Q]

Guys, the new patch causes more crash error than ever, it always crash when i was in late game when the AI pour a lot of unit into the battlefield.

[Cranialwizard]

For fucks sake these crashes don't occur in Pvp so the obvious problem is the AI, robotnik is already working furiously on these issues. If you are gonna complain about crashes then do something helpful and post some ScarLogs. If you don't want to do that then play in an actual match.

This patch was designed to fix most balance issues between pvp and add some new stuff here and there. The highlight of this patch ISN'T FORTRESS MODE FFS.

[neosdark]

For fucks sake these crashes don't occur in Pvp so the obvious problem is the AI, robotnik is already working furiously on these issues. If you are gonna complain about crashes then do something helpful and post some ScarLogs. If you don't want to do that then play in an actual match.

This patch was designed to fix most balance issues between pvp and add some new stuff here and there. The highlight of this patch ISN'T FORTRESS MODE FFS.

Chill man, chill.

Their fault that they aren't enjoying the new patch to its fullest potential. I haven't even played Fortress mode yet, cause its no fun playing vs. AI in the first place.