Hull Down Tanks

[FLgator]

Last night, Von Klaus, Paladin, and myself went against 2 brits and a russian on the refinery. We controlled most of the map and routinely destroyed the russian base. However, the Brit bases seemed to be almost impossible to overtake. Everytime we'd rush them with our panthers and PIV's their Hull Down tanks would take us out.  It took us about an hour to finally win. So my question is..... 
What is the best way to destroy hull down tanks? We repeatedly hit them with firestorms. V1s worked a little better but didn't work all that great. Our tanks seemed almost useless against them.  How much of an armor increase/rate of fire bonus does a hull down tank receive as opposed to a regular tank?

[Alexander 'ApeMen' J.]

one easy possible solution is playing VP games

there is no need to kill the base there^^

[FLgator]

Haha, yes, we play a lot of VP games as well. Some people refuse to play VP games though.

[Cranialwizard]

one easy possible solution is playing VP games

there is no need to kill the base there^^

+1

[Alexander 'ApeMen' J.]

hehe i know your problem dude^^
the most players who wants to play annhi are the less skilled players who think they only need the late game abilitys to win


sometimes stukas worked good against hulled down ability

i never tryed at nades of pe but i think this would also work

[Blackbishop]

Perhaps nebels? The fire stays for a little longer and might be useful.

[Desert_Fox]

hehe i know your problem dude^^
the most players who wants to play annhi are the less skilled players who think they only need the late game abilitys to win

So true.

Annihilation = Spamspamspamspamspam!

[Walentin 'Walki' L.]

Easy... PE AT Grenades + Ammo HT take care of them .

[vonklaus]

it wasnt a problem at all I avoided them when I was on your side of the map and flanked the non hunker downed tanks. We had about 90% of the map before there sheer mass was a problem. It wasn't an issue at all because hull down is great for protecting your tanks but really a bunch of Cromwell and Churchill locked down still have a hard time doing much damage . Im sure if we spammed at guns like they did Churchills it would have been less of an issue.

I like annihilate, bad players feel more comfortable, and it gives you a chance to come back. Alot of times if im soviet union and i dont win map early it feels as if game is over if i play vp (atleast against good players) . Its aggravating when all the best players always play together and leave you on the team with the random newb, atleast if we are playing annihilate I can fight and annoy him if its vp they are just going to give each other virtual high fives because they doubled teamed me in first 5 minutes while my partner was capping the crap side of the map that no one cared about. Annihilate is more balanced in my opinion because good players dont want balanced games they want to play with there level 10 partner and stomp you.

[Pac-Fish]

To answer FLgators question, I think Hulldown gives you like 50% armor protection so theres a much lower chance of penetration .

[GodlikeDennis]

Wouldn't that in fact be the point of a balanced map, that two good players beat two lesser uncoordinated players? Annihilate games cause people to whip out lame boring strats so it takes you an hour to beat them even if they're far shitter than you.

[Pauly3]

so true Dennis
i recently played Seeme, and no offense he sucks, but because he was blobbing guard squads like mad it was hard to beat him and his blobbing allies and took longer than it should have

[Dann88]

tsk tsk tsk, I see "blobing" again, it gonna be more famous than "Seeme" or "orange".
Question: Does hull down give the tank less being penetrated bonus? Or just increase normal def?  And sometime, I control the tank to get the rear of enemy's tank but mysteriously my tank shoot the rear part near the front and get a ricochet? And tankhunters too, they stand in the front of the tank, shoot and get a rear amor hit

[Max 'DonXavi' von B.]

And sometime, I control the tank to get the side of enemy's tank but mysteriously my tank shoot the side part near the front and get a ricochet? And tankhunters too, they stand in the front of the tank, shoot and get a rear amor hit

COH is weird and unpredictable, plus it does only know front and rear armor, there is nothing such as side armor.

[Dann88]

"side amor", I mean the left-right side, the rear is behind. Sorry