Which is better: Guards or Naval Infantry?

[Chancellor]

next patch both guards and naval are useless

Not this again...  Apparently, getting your ass handed to you once isn't enough.  Hurry up and find the balls you need to 1v1 Dennis in vCoH.  I can't wait for the replays to be posted here.

[Killar]

Apperently you cant compare NI and Guards 1:1

NI come earlier and are different equipped. The ability to call in NI´s gives you another strategy which can surprise axis alot

[irik]

Apperently you cant compare NI and Guards 1:1

NI come earlier and are different equipped. The ability to call in NI´s gives you another strategy which can surprise axis alot

Really? I find Guards more useful to use. I get Shock Guards upgrade, and Dp28 is excellent. They're such great supporters of Su 122, ISU 152, KV 2, you get it.

[Killar]

forget 1.40 Guard stats

[Charliedog123]

I agree. NI are a good early call in unit.

[Otto Halfhand]

There are insufficient differences between Guards and Naval Infantry to make a judgement of good, better, best. Both units are just variations on a theme. The argument that was offered that supported NI for an early Tank Rush doesn't make sense. You get the Guards unlocked going with a Tank Rush Strat anyway.

Post Merge: August 08, 2011, 11:05:12 AM
Aesthetics aside the only justification for two Sov Elites is that it  allows better AI play. The AI will produce elite infantry. It would be  nice if the AI could have its production builds tweaked to build armor and call-in Infantry, (or vice versa if Breakthrough is chosen).

[Cranialwizard]

The argument that was offered that supported NI for an early Tank Rush doesn't make sense. You get the Guards unlocked going with a Tank Rush Strat anyway.

To unlock guards you must purchase both a T2 upgrade and a T3/T4 upgrade. You can't build the Tank Hall and get light armor and magically unlock Guards.

At that point you'd need to backtech to get Guards, so Navals are a good stop gap for in-between, as conscripts just won't cut it.

[GodlikeDennis]

They also function a little differently. Guards are good offensively and defensively, while NI are (now) mostly used in a defensive role. Think of them more as a heavy weapons specialist, rather than elite or assault infantry.

[irik]

With the new patch out, which is better? I haven't tried out Guards or Naval Infantry quite yet.

[Pac-Fish]

Well with 1.5 both Guards and NI are less numerous, mostly Guards. But Guards have more hp. NI can now get 2 DP mg's, potentially making them better. But shock guards allow Guards to get ppsh or dp mg. So I would say Guards are still better. But not as much as b4.

[Blackbishop]

Just to clarify, Guards get PPS smgs as upgrade after they get Shock Guards upgrade (not ppsh and dp28, those are for strelky).

[Pac-Fish]

My bad . I only used them once.

[Blackbishop]

I'm ashamed XD! you partially were right, Shock Guards are given a special DP-28! But as part of Shock Guard bonii, not as a separate upgrade. But I forgot that part.

[Pac-Fish]

 :-[Ill try using my elites more blackbishop

[Otto Halfhand]

I'm ashamed XD! you partially were right, Shock Guards are given a special DP-28! But as part of Shock Guard bonii, not as a separate upgrade. But I forgot that part.

Is this special DP-28 the "Shoot on the Scoot" variety or something else? I ask the same question of the NI's DP-28?