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Re: A Stuh barrage can not kill a single individual infantry ???
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2011, 01:22:42 AM »
Sometimes crushing infantry with your StuG/StuH is even more effective than waiting and standing and waiting and standing. Be on the move and less vulnerable. It's also a good way when you e.g. face a Bazooka/Recoilless Rifle squad and prevent them from shooting by crushing them. That is a hot pursuit.
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Re: A Stuh barrage can not kill a single individual infantry ???
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2011, 01:25:23 AM »
If you can get them cornered, yeah, but it's extremely difficult to run guys over with just about any tank under most conditions.

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Re: A Stuh barrage can not kill a single individual infantry ???
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2011, 01:28:56 AM »
That sounds like an exploit to me.... :-\ I think it just needs more tuning. ;)

Using attack ground with the StuH and KV-2 not an exploit, mate.  Its more like micro.  Try it out a few times; you'll be surprised how much more damage it does.  Besides, the devs have said they won't change any vanilla unit stats, and that includes the StuH.

As for the crushing thing, you can also micro the StuH /  StuG to "dance / waltz" and crush blobs sometimes.
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Re: A Stuh barrage can not kill a single individual infantry ???
« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2011, 01:33:40 AM »
I know they won't change vanilla stats - I just think it's weird how it hits just like normal arty, but is usually far weaker...

If a unit is more accurate with attack-ground than normal attack, i think it's a bug. Attacking-ground near enemy units really feels like an exploit...

And i have no idea how you're supposed to make a tank dance.... ???

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Re: A Stuh barrage can not kill a single individual infantry ???
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2011, 01:47:45 AM »
Attacking-ground near enemy units really feels like an exploit...

No, it's just preventing the StuH from shooting the most isolated guy instead of the big blob. Sometimes it will just aim at the outer members of the squad. COH units are not that intelligent, that's a thing of micro, like Yauz said.

And i have no idea how you're supposed to make a tank dance.... ???

Don't you know the Disco Mode of tanks that is engaged when they are out of control?  :P

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Re: A Stuh barrage can not kill a single individual infantry ???
« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2011, 01:53:49 AM »
And i have no idea how you're supposed to make a tank dance.... ???

Don't you know the Disco Mode of tanks that is engaged when they are out of control?  :P

Out of control StuG / StuH and also Hetzers can crush many infantry if the guy is giving stupid move orders, but there's also a way to make the StuG "waltz".

Basically with some quick mouse-click move commands, the StuG / StuH will slide sideways left or right, like if it were on ice and will crush any infantry (guaranteed) in the way for that brief duration of time.  Unfortunately, it's too hard to explain how to pull it off here.

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Re: A Stuh barrage can not kill a single individual infantry ???
« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2011, 02:13:00 AM »
I have noticed that they often travel sideways. I figured it was a bug... I never could figure out any kind of way to trigger it myself, though. I'm not the kind of player who repeatedly gives the same move order, anyway.

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Re: A Stuh barrage can not kill a single individual infantry ???
« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2011, 02:46:17 AM »
Moving sideways is epic for crushing.  ::)
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Re: A Stuh barrage can not kill a single individual infantry ???
« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2011, 03:15:45 AM »
Stugs and M10s are epic for crushing. Churchills aren't too bad either despite their low speed.
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Re: A Stuh barrage can not kill a single individual infantry ???
« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2011, 08:25:08 AM »
And what about Cromwells and M-18s? I am adept at crushing grenadiers with them.
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Re: A Stuh barrage can not kill a single individual infantry ???
« Reply #25 on: August 06, 2011, 08:34:43 AM »
The models aren't as large. The M18 is good but the crom doesn't have that nicely shaped model that plows down the infantry that try to dive away.
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Re: A Stuh barrage can not kill a single individual infantry ???
« Reply #26 on: August 06, 2011, 02:07:52 PM »
It is fast though. crushing is the most effective way for M-10s to counter Infantry.
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Re: A Stuh barrage can not kill a single individual infantry ???
« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2011, 11:17:20 PM »
The problem is probly related to Shock Guards that are not receiving damage from StuH (and other explosions sometime). Its a bug/imbalance, the devs are aware and the correction is confirmed for next patch.

This happened to me when playing vs Itaperuna, I posted the replay on bug section.