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Re: Does an Army march on its Stomach? Logistics in EF
« Reply #45 on: August 03, 2011, 08:06:50 AM »
Ambushing with two Paks gives a sense of satisfaction. Your opponent's  t-34 flounders around trying to get your 1st pak while the second pak hits its juicy rear with its tungsten core shells.
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Re: Does an Army march on its Stomach? Logistics in EF
« Reply #46 on: August 03, 2011, 01:58:40 PM »
How can you complain that your pak misses to much?
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Re: Does an Army march on its Stomach? Logistics in EF
« Reply #47 on: August 03, 2011, 02:29:37 PM »
How can you complain that your pak misses to much?
Exactly. Although i think they should have a bit more accuracy v.s. stationary infantry, their accuracy is good.

My problem with A-T Guns is what's been stated earlier - They often don't move, turn, or fire. ::)

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Re: Does an Army march on its Stomach? Logistics in EF
« Reply #48 on: August 03, 2011, 03:51:58 PM »
How can you complain that your pak misses to much?
Exactly. Although i think they should have a bit more accuracy v.s. stationary infantry, their accuracy is good... My problem with A-T Guns is what's been stated earlier - They often don't move, turn, or fire. ::)
I have similar problems with auto-fire and ATs.

Didn't AT fire at infantry get a general nerf in 2.602 and EF_1.40? IIRC received accuracy is reduced to .015 or some such. It is also not clear to me if Tank fire vs ATs has a similarly low accuracy.
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Re: Does an Army march on its Stomach? Logistics in EF
« Reply #49 on: August 03, 2011, 05:45:28 PM »
Otto 213 you never had 88 shells fired on your soft infantrymen. One and half conscripts squads become manure in the time it takes to read the 1st line.
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Re: Does an Army march on its Stomach? Logistics in EF
« Reply #50 on: August 03, 2011, 06:18:51 PM »
Flak 36 isn't an A-T Gun. ;)

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Re: Does an Army march on its Stomach? Logistics in EF
« Reply #51 on: August 04, 2011, 12:39:56 AM »
Well theoretically the Flak 36 is an AT gun and does a very good job of that :P. But Tankbuster was comparing the 88 battery to infantry while you guys were comparing Pak to infantry if I'm correct. My problem wth the Pak is that it does try to engage the enemy if its being attacked outside its firing arc. It just sits there and dies. Yet the AI repositions its Pak :(

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« Reply #52 on: August 04, 2011, 12:49:43 AM »
That's another thing that bothers me about the A.I. players - They are effectively everywhere at once, so they can micro every battle, as well as produce units etc., whilst the human player can only do 1 thing at a time. :(

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Re: Does an Army march on its Stomach? Logistics in EF
« Reply #53 on: August 04, 2011, 12:53:48 AM »
Get dual screens then ;D. Just kidding. I guess its something you have to master. I think in COH they call it micro and macro  ???

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Re: Does an Army march on its Stomach? Logistics in EF
« Reply #54 on: August 04, 2011, 12:57:37 AM »
Every R.T.S. has micro (tactics) and macro (strategy). Company Of Heroes is more of a tactical game, hence the focus on micro more than macro. As an example, Supreme Commander is more about strategy; Building massive armies (+ massive bases) and throwing them at the enemy, rather than keeping individual units alive.

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Re: Does an Army march on its Stomach? Logistics in EF
« Reply #55 on: August 26, 2011, 11:46:55 AM »
All AT gun's accuracy against infantry were nerfed into oblivion by Relic in their previous patch. I suspect the reason for this is that people were tired of getting their snipers killed by AT guns.

Regarding the OPs post, I too think it would break some of the competitive action. Getting that one big fuel point is really important as of now. If I can simply divert resources there wouldn't be any real reason to put up with a costly fight so early on.
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Re: Does an Army march on its Stomach? Logistics in EF
« Reply #56 on: August 26, 2011, 08:53:57 PM »
Please please please don't screw up this mod by messing with core gameplay dynamics. I'm referring to OP's suggestion. If it hasn't been bashed down by a dev already it should be.
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Re: Does an Army march on its Stomach? Logistics in EF
« Reply #57 on: August 26, 2011, 09:18:55 PM »
... Regarding the OPs post, I too think it would break some of the competitive action. Getting that one big fuel point is really important as of now. If I can simply divert resources there wouldn't be any real reason to put up with a costly fight so early on.
Hear, hear. It is senseless to have a paramount strategic point in the early game. The Mortar Bunker on the Minsk map being a prime example. I'm glad it was removed, (neat though).
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Re: Does an Army march on its Stomach? Logistics in EF
« Reply #58 on: September 12, 2011, 09:57:44 PM »
Americans can drop resourses, aka trade MP for Fuel and Munitions.

It's unique to them, and i for one hope it stays that way.