Does an Army march on its Stomach? Logistics in EF

[Pac-Fish]

Or a StuH 42 and Stormtroopers

[pariah]

A Pak being useful?! HA!

I agree with everything else, though.

[cephalos]

It kills Jeeps with insane rate 

Double shrecked Stormies are insanely muni expenisve and can be really painful when attackig straight from infiltration.

[pariah]

It kills Jeeps with insane rate 

Perhaps... If it decides to fire.

[Tankbuster]

I never understood why the 50 mm pak 38 was included ingame instead of the 75 mm pak 40. Still Ninja paks are very good defensive weapons. Support them with grenadiers. Free grenadiers if you have medic bunkers.

[Paciat]

I never understood why the 50 mm pak 38 was included ingame instead of the 75 mm pak 40. Still Ninja paks are very good defensive weapons. Support them with grenadiers. Free grenadiers if you have medic bunkers.

Becouse PAK 40 was allmost as heavy as 17lbs and would have to be build instead of being towed from base... and germans allready have a buildable AT gun.

Pak 38 has a very high rate of fire. I had many games where (as allies) a captured PAK saved my ass, and I didnt even have camo.
IMO in most cases its better than a 57mm or an 17lbs emplacement. Also US offensive vet is much better for AT guns than WH def vechicle vet. Thats also why I rarelly go for WH T2.

Does anyone know if LTs give vet bonuses to AT guns or just gain their experience providivg no bonuses - like when using Commandos?

[Otto Halfhand]

Does anyone know if LTs give vet bonuses to AT guns or just gain their experience providivg no bonuses - like when using Commandos?

I do not know for sure, but I recall reading that Vet effects of  the CW leaders only affected infantry units and that vehicle vet effects were related only to command tank vet. An AT gun is considered a vehicle no?

Regarding AT gun caliber; bigger is not always better. The Zis 2, IIRCa 47mm cannon was capable of penetrating the armor of a Tiger I. After the advent of the Tiger, Stalin ordered production of the Zis 2 to resume. T34s were going to be equipped with them but ther was a technical problem which prevented this. I always wondered why the DevTeam chose the Zis2 over the 76.2mm AT. I guess somebody knew.

[GodlikeDennis]

I don't think captured AT guns are affected by LTs but rather by the CCT as Otto said. MG42s on the other hand are godly under the effects of LTs.

[Chancellor]

A Pak being useful?! HA!

IMO PAK is the single best AT unit in the whole game; better than Flak 88 most of the time.  When there's 2-3 snipers on the field and fucking British artillery shells dropping here and there like shit pieces from a bad case of diarrhea, you'd wish you never built an 88 sometimes.  I only use Flak 88 as PE because they have no PAK.  I almost never go Defensive Doctrine as Wehr, and when I do, I do it for FTFL and not specifically for Flak 88.

Never look down on this unit.  Back in the day when I was still a Storms-spamming noob who got strafed to death or got crushed by M10 Armor Doctrine horde, my friend / sifu who taught me all about CoH showed me the Grens+PAK+Med bunker way, and it has served me well since then.   

[pariah]

O.K., Mr. A-T-Guns-Are-Useful, answer me this: How do you get them to do things, such as moving and attacking?

[Tico_1990]

Moving: using your mouse and such and clicking with it.
Attacking: just set it up facing the right way, cloak it, and don't put it on hold fire. That way they should do their job pretty well.

[pariah]

In theory, yes, but they often don't. That's really the main reason i would like robotnik to take a look at the A.I., and see what can be done...

[GodlikeDennis]

Paks work fine for me?

[Cranialwizard]

Paks work fine for me?

+1

[Pac-Fish]

Maybe he mens the pak misses alot If its not firing on its target it could be out of its firing arc. Then you have to reposition it. Otherwise it does its role or killing armor fairly well