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Does an Army march on its Stomach? Logistics in EF
« on: July 26, 2011, 01:16:17 AM »
I am not a high level player, nor do I expect I will ever devote the time necessary to become one. One of the most annoying problems in vCoH is the inability to transfer resources from one category to another. Sometimes my popcap is too low to take advantage of MP surpluses. Sometimes 1000s of FP are available. More Munis can always be used.
THe CPU always has a large bonus in MP that result in Spams. I would like to suggest a logistics squad, activated from the T0 HQ to allow transfer resource points back and forth between the three categories. It would not be necessary to have an equal exchange rate as is the case in Normandy 44 mod. Both Ostheer and Soviets should have the same capability. It would be nice for all factions as well but We know thats not going to happen.
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Re: Does an Army march on its Stomach? Logistics in EF
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2011, 01:31:54 AM »
Interesting proposition (reminds me of A.O.E.), but since it's only for 1 or 2 factions, i fear it would be dreadfully unbalanced. :(

The Americans do have a similar system though, with O.P.s, and the Supply Yard.

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Re: Does an Army march on its Stomach? Logistics in EF
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2011, 04:31:10 AM »
Sadly you are probably correct. The Amis and Wher have limited capabilities in this regard, The RMC rewards faction could be easily modified. PE would require a rewards faction. I think this would be a good idea to correct some of the shortcomings in PE but since success against PE depends greatly on denying it FPs it might create an entirely different balance issue.
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Re: Does an Army march on its Stomach? Logistics in EF
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2011, 08:39:38 AM »
+1 to the idea. I often end game with 400+ fuel surplus.

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Re: Does an Army march on its Stomach? Logistics in EF
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2011, 03:54:28 PM »
The problem with Fuel is that you will often spend so much Manpower on squads, reinforcing, and off-map units that your purchasing of non-doctrinal armor is restricted only by your Manpower reserves come late-game. The only time i have to watch my Fuel supplies is in the beginning, and when i am losing late-game.

I pretty much always have a use for more Munitions, though. :P

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Re: Does an Army march on its Stomach? Logistics in EF
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2011, 04:52:21 PM »
So do we,pariah ,So do we. But having a complex exchange system is not right for a game like this where everything is so dynamic.
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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2011, 04:55:43 PM »
I know. I just think relic could have done a better job balancing the resources, giving Fuel more use. :(

I always thought the lightest of the light vehicles (such as the Jeep) should cost a small amount of Fuel (maybe about 5), and be a little more effective in combat to compensate.

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Re: Does an Army march on its Stomach? Logistics in EF
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2011, 06:09:07 PM »
So do we,pariah ,So do we. But having a complex exchange system is not right for a game like this where everything is so dynamic.
Take a look at the Normandy 44 Mod. It is not a complex system.

http://www.moddb.com/mods/normandy-1944-european-theater1/downloads/european-theater-1944-ver-17-full-auto-install
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Re: Does an Army march on its Stomach? Logistics in EF
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2011, 06:21:27 PM »
How different is Normandy '44 to the standard Company Of Heroes gameplay?

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Re: Does an Army march on its Stomach? Logistics in EF
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2011, 06:30:53 PM »
Normandy 44 requires you to select a doctrine up front. This represents an historical division and its TO&E. A further doctrinal selection later on adds further Historical units in support of your initial selection. All units have some sort of hard popcap but many more unit types are available. 10m squads in general, call-ins are generally battle groups. higher resources lower muni costs. Looks pretty good so far But it is stand alone. IE not vCoH compatible like EF.
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Re: Does an Army march on its Stomach? Logistics in EF
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2011, 06:37:39 PM »
Sounds like a pretty cool mod, but i think it's too different to compare the resources of that game to standard Company Of Heroes and Eastern Front.

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Re: Does an Army march on its Stomach? Logistics in EF
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2011, 07:47:13 PM »
But it is not updated to the latest coh update

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But it is not updated to the latest coh update

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Re: Does an Army march on its Stomach? Logistics in EF
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2011, 10:38:01 PM »
Hi Ryxxen. Welcome to the community! I think Normandy 44 is compatible with 2.602. THe readme says it is and it certainly works on my 2.602 set-up.
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Re: Does an Army march on its Stomach? Logistics in EF
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2011, 11:13:09 AM »
Is this the 1,7 updated version

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Re: Does an Army march on its Stomach? Logistics in EF
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2011, 06:47:07 PM »
This would make the gameplay unnecessarily complicated. People would capture munitions and trade them for fuel.
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