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Re: Combat situations
« Reply #510 on: September 18, 2012, 02:52:28 AM »
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Re: Combat situations
« Reply #511 on: October 22, 2012, 04:44:37 AM »
I saw a replay long ago, the one that Wher player outcap the vp of the Brits by using snipers and building Forward Barrack. In the beginning of the match, the Wher player used 1 volks squad to build 1 small sandbag and forced the whole squad stay behind it. How the hell he can do that? Is there any trick like that?
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Re: Combat situations
« Reply #512 on: October 22, 2012, 05:12:44 AM »
Against allies you can use the Goliath and hide it behind a wall and use your lone sniper to bait the Riflemen/Tommy blob into the Goliath and boom, blob is gone.
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Re: Combat situations
« Reply #513 on: October 22, 2012, 05:26:24 AM »
When you construct the sandbag, the squad will group up so it will all fit nicely behind the sandbag. It's very handy when fighting with only volks against buildings.
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Re: Combat situations
« Reply #514 on: October 22, 2012, 05:30:06 AM »
Silly me, you're right Dennis :P

How to use T34/85 to the best of their cost? What situation I should use them?
In some lately matches, I found out they have no chance to against doctrine units like Tiger and KT. With 1 Tiger and 1 panther and some micro can beat 4 T34/85 with equal skill. Flanking heavy tanks does inflict some damages but also inflict a lot more damage to T34/85 too lead to an overall loss.
So if I bet my fuel to T34/85 instead of IS-2, the conclusion will be decided when Axis armor steamrolling into SU base :P.
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Re: Combat situations
« Reply #515 on: November 12, 2012, 01:26:33 AM »
@Dann: Get an AT gun(s). They either fall back or take it like a bitch lol. And if they rush your AT gun swarm them. Although Im sure someone has better advice.

Which offers better cover: Building or green cover? Assume the building has no windows blown out and can accommodate all soldiers and the green cover fits all soldiers

Also is it true a window blown out offers less protection or is that a myth?

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Re: Combat situations
« Reply #516 on: November 12, 2012, 02:06:58 AM »
@Dann, Use T34/85 in pairs, use their superior speed to a) circle strafe Axis Armor and b) maneuver across the field to areas where suitable non-doctrinal targets are found. IIRC the Speed of PzVI's of all flavors is about 4. They can't shoot what they can't catch.

@Bread Fish: AFAIK Green cover is green cover, which includes buildings. However buildings are all around cover where most green cover is directional. There is a peculiar condition that when buildings lose a certain amount of health they are no longer occupiable. The garrison will get kicked out. I think the morale check aka retreat check of buildings and their garrison are multiplicative. This means some lower quality squads will retreat to base when kicked out. Higher quality squads will hang around and not retreat. THis can be embarrassing when MG teams don't deploy but just stand there.
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Re: Combat situations
« Reply #517 on: November 12, 2012, 02:19:34 AM »
I've never had a unit kicked out of a building. I think you are thinking of something else cause in all situations I've been in the building just collapses and kills my squad.

So basically you are saying green cover = building

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Re: Combat situations
« Reply #518 on: November 12, 2012, 02:56:41 AM »
Green cover is stronger than garrison (building) cover. That's why you can easily beat a squad in a building by building a sandbag on the short side (least windows) and fighting from behind it. Obviously a squad in a building can't be suppressed though, and are less vulnerable to artillery (except nebels). Larger buildings are also much less vulnerable against grenades.

No Allied tanks can stand up to Axis armour in a straight fight. IS-2s are the closest to this but really are too slow to engage Panthers properly. Instead, you should have some AT support units distract the enemy vehicles while T-34s use their significant speed to respond to weaknesses. Only attempt a flank if the enemy tank is not supported by Paks. In this case you will be better off trying to have a slugmatch and trying to arty the Paks, or bring up ATGs of your own. You are at a disadvantage in a slugmatch but can still do OK. You also have the advantage of speed to get away (unless you are facing Panthers in which case you'd better have something to slow them down).
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Re: Combat situations
« Reply #519 on: November 14, 2012, 02:46:19 AM »
What are the exact bonuses for heavy cover VS building cover?
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Re: Combat situations
« Reply #520 on: November 14, 2012, 11:46:19 AM »
Depends on the weapon firing at it.
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Re: Combat situations
« Reply #521 on: November 15, 2012, 01:25:17 AM »
I know that SMGs suck against buildings and flamethrowers are great against them.  What would a rifle on average be against buildings and green cover.
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Re: Combat situations
« Reply #522 on: November 15, 2012, 04:50:37 AM »
I know that SMGs suck against buildings and flamethrowers are great against them.  What would a rifle on average be against buildings and green cover.

Generally everything automatic sucks against buildings. Rifles are ok if you keep in heavy cover facing a minimum amount of windows.
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Re: Combat situations
« Reply #523 on: November 16, 2012, 10:24:57 PM »
I found out that Sturmovie's smg is very effective against ATG (the gun, not mentioning the crew), is there any weapons that can also use to destroy ATG too? Maybe BAR? Or their smgs are not supposed to be that effective :(
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Re: Combat situations
« Reply #524 on: November 27, 2012, 06:30:53 AM »
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What is the best way to target major Danko? The comp regularly grinds him into Latkes. when I Target the fellow even with 3-4 different squads at once I never seem to accomplish Buttkis.
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