Whats the dirty on Infantry AT weapons

[GodlikeDennis]

You think that's cool? Conscripts can potentially pick up 8 BARs or DP-28s .

[Otto Halfhand]

@pariah, @GLD:  .

I don't know for sure but this is my guess for Soviet heavy weapons:
Minesweeper         2
Flamethrower        2 -SIng 6 weapon slots (2ROK) ?DP-28 (both kinds) 1
PPSh (both kinds) 12 -Strelky 2 weapon slots (6 PPSh or 2 DPs)
PPS-43               12 -CS has 2 w. slots (can pick up shrek)
PTRD                   2 -NI have 3 weapon slots
Guard SVT          14 -SGds have 5 weapon slots available
SVT sniper            4 -2m squad has 4 weapon slots ?

Sniper rifles are counted as heavy weapons for whatever reason. The others take up 4 slots so I guess the Sov one does too.

Assumed data to supplement yours.

[GodlikeDennis]

The data I gave was per weapon, not per package. I dunno how to look up how many slots a weapon takes up but I can see how many a squad has which we can interpret data from:

Conscripts    8
Strelky         7 (PPSh takes 1 each, DP-28 could be 1 or 2 because you can pick at least one other 2 slot weapon after upgrading. Red flag might take 1?)
Guards         4 (SVT is 1 each, Guard DP-28 is 1)
Ingenery/Sturmovie 5 (Minesweeper is 1, ROK is 2?)
THs             4 (PTRD is 2)
NI               4
Mechanics    4
CS               5 (PPS-43 is 1)
Partisans      4 (MP-40/PPSh is 1 each) They can pick up 1 more 1 slot weapon)

I amended the sniper SVT data. I think it's 1 slot. Either way, slot numbers is independent of squad size. For example, PGs always have 5 slots regardless of whether they have either 3 or 4 men in the squad.

[Blackbishop]

I just found out that PE shreks that are dropped turn into Wehr shreks on the ground. PE shreks take up 4 weapon slots (PGs have 5) while WM shreks take up only 2. Therefore, a PE squad can pick up 2 of his dropped shreks but can only build 1 on himself.

Oh really! That was supposed to be fixed by Relic on 2.602 .

[Max 'DonXavi' von B.]

I just found out that PE shreks that are dropped turn into Wehr shreks on the ground. PE shreks take up 4 weapon slots (PGs have 5) while WM shreks take up only 2. Therefore, a PE squad can pick up 2 of his dropped shreks but can only build 1 on himself.

Sounds like a good deal to me, because Wehr shrecks deal a bigger amount of damage.

[Pac-Fish]

Q: If you have conscripts and they pick up a gun(ex:bazooka), do they lose a rifle so to speak or do they now have 5 weapons firing?

Also, doesn't the PE shreck do more damage? Thats what the little numbers say next to the unit image.(Wher shreeck=+3, PE sherck=+4)

BTW:What does that Red flag he soviets hold do for you?

[Max 'DonXavi' von B.]

Also, doesn't the PE shreck do more damage? Thats what the little numbers say next to the unit image.(Wher shreeck=+3, PE sherck=+4)

BTW:What does that Red flag he soviets hold do for you?

Wehr Shrecks have a higher damage value, however I would have to look it up in order to tell you the exact values. The numbers next to the units are only for bloody noobs. They don't say anything about the units true values.

The flag bearer is included in the Red Banner Strelky, short RBS upgrade. With him, Strelky is able to sprint for a short amount of time. He is there because he's awesome.

[Pac-Fish]

He may make your units look cool but you lose a gun don't you? Oh well

[Max 'DonXavi' von B.]

He may make your units look cool but you lose a gun don't you? Oh well

That doen't matter because you are supplied with two possible weapon upgrades. IIRC 5 PPSHs OR 2 DP-28s.

[GodlikeDennis]

Yeah the weapon upgrades make up for the removal of 1 rifle. The squad fire-up and hold gound abilities are dependent on the red flag guy being alive I think, unless we changed it .


The damage of the Wehr and PE shrek are in my analysis in the 2nd post. 120 Wehr, 105 PE.

[Cranialwizard]

Yeah the weapon upgrades make up for the removal of 1 rifle. The squad fire-up and hold gound abilities are dependent on the red flag guy being alive I think, unless we changed it .

You're correct. Snipe the Flag bearer and the abilities disappear.

[pariah]

Can't another guy just pick it up?

[GodlikeDennis]

No, the flag is one of those undroppable, reinforceable items. You have to reinforce to get it back.

[pariah]

I don't think it should drop - Just go to another soldier. After all, it's the flag that's important, not the guy holding it, right?

[Cranialwizard]

I don't think it should drop - Just go to another soldier. After all, it's the flag that's important, not the guy holding it, right?

He's more of a flag bearer instead of a trooper. I guess he's specially trained to have it and the others are more focused on killing