Best Medium Tank of WWII

[DrRockzo1986]

Alright Ive seen some MGs and Elites now its time for Medium tanks, so lets hear it.

[Paciat]

PzIV. No other good tank saw action thruout the whole WWII.

If you are asking about the best tank that was designed in WWII it would be the Centurion.

[DrRockzo1986]

PzIV. No other good tank saw action thruout the whole WWII.

If you are asking about the best tank that was designed in WWII it would be the Centurion.

Lol nope just ones that saw action, note I didnt add assault guns or Tank Destroyers even though some are on Medium tank Chassis. And Technically Cromwells and Comets are considered Cruisers which seems to be a British tank only Classification so I added them as well

[Killar]

Best in what?

- firepower
- speed
- reliability
- easy and cheap to produce
- saw action all over the war
- ...

You cant say "best" tank

[DrRockzo1986]

Overall

[Cranialwizard]

PzIV. No other good tank saw action thruout the whole WWII.

If you are asking about the best tank that was designed in WWII it would be the Centurion.

Lol nope just ones that saw action, note I didnt add assault guns or Tank Destroyers even though some are on Medium tank Chassis. And Technically Cromwells and Comets are considered Cruisers which seems to be a British tank only Classification so I added them as well

Wouldn't the sherman firefly classify as a tank destroyer?

Concerning your two Italian combatants for the contest:
The Carro Armato P-40 was only ordered in the amount of 1200 but only about 5 had ever finished by the time of the Italian's surrendering. The P-40 was designed to be a fairly good tank, however classified as a heavy tank. British 17 pounders could pierce their armor but anything lower would have difficulty penetrating. Only a few saw combat after germany took over Fiat-Anzio

The Fiat M11/39? Well...lets just say that wasn't a completely serious tank. It wielded the weak 37mm main gun and could easily be penetrated by most AT weapons. It was only produced in small numbers of about 100-200 and it's main flaw was the fixation of it's turret, while the turret was not completely fixed and could still turn a bit it could not turn fast or far enough to engage flanking armor.

I think a better candidate for Italian armor would be Fiat's M13/40. It was produced in much larger numbers.

Overall I agree with Paciat on the Panzer IV. The Panther overall was a better tank but saw less combat and wasn't produced as much as a Panzer IV.

[DrRockzo1986]

Sorry I was just running the list of Medium tanks from Wikis "Tanks in World War II" section and for whatever reason the Fiat M13/40 wasn't listed but it is classified as a Medium tank so ill add it. THANKS . As for the sherman firefly idk what to say other than its classified as a medium tank on the above mentioned site http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanks_in_World_War_II
Post Merge: June 29, 2011, 10:48:00 PMIm really suprised no one has voted for the M4 Sherman, historians make such a huge deal about it being a good tank.

[CrimsonDragoon]

I am surprized that T34 has just 1 point. Mine   

[Cranialwizard]

Im really suprised no one has voted for the M4 Sherman, historians make such a huge deal about it being a good tank.

The only reason shermans were considered good medium tanks was for their spammability, literally. The Allied War Machine had geared production up to tanks per minute when America joined the war, and shermans had lacking armor and not enough firepower to penetrate german Panther and Tiger tanks, which became mainstream after looking at soviet aggressive tanks like the T-34.

[Killar]

That poll is stupid. There is no "best" tank.

f.e. t34 is considered the best tank in ww2. It was a crappy tank. primitive constructed, loud, not comfortable, realiability  , ...
but in mass numbers (easy to produce) it could dominate. So its the best tank because it was of most success?

[CrimsonDragoon]

That poll is stupid. There is no "best" tank.

f.e. t34 is considered the best tank in ww2. It was a crappy tank. primitive constructed, loud, not comfortable, realiability  , ...
but in mass numbers (easy to produce) it could dominate. So its the best tank because it was of most success?

Before 1943 it WAS the best tank

[DrRockzo1986]

Thats why its an opinion based poll
Post Merge: June 30, 2011, 12:16:19 AMIm having a really hard time trying to figure out how to classify these British tanks

[Killar]

That poll is stupid. There is no "best" tank.

f.e. t34 is considered the best tank in ww2. It was a crappy tank. primitive constructed, loud, not comfortable, realiability  , ...
but in mass numbers (easy to produce) it could dominate. So its the best tank because it was of most success?

Before 1943 it WAS the best tank

No it wasnt. Even the soviets said the panzerIII was the better tank BEFORE the war began because of the things i mentioned before. 50mm gun could destroy a t34

[Seeme]

There was no "best tank", its what tank had the best crew.

[Paladin88]

Ha ha, not true Seeme, no matter how good the crew is inside a stuart its as equally dead as any other vs. a tiger. Hee hee, its like in WWI, where before the Camel (a very old fighter bi plane) was introduced there were many German aces yet just shortly after the introduction of the Camel, all their numbers sharply declined? Why, the reason was simply before that the allied fighters were obsolete, the German triplane being faster and more manoeverable simply cut the Pups to pieces.

The camel negated those advantages of the German triplanes and then it became a real test of skill you know?

As for the Firefly, it was still a tank just with a 17 pounder rather than 75/76mm.

This poll is v. opinionated so I'll hold my vote for now