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[Goober]

Tiger205? I hear he's beast at animating.

[DrRockzo1986]

Anyway back to the concern of crushed infantry, you guys do realize the guy planting with only needs a fraction of a second to plant before running away and he doesnt need to be right on top of the tank either. You'd have to make a pretty precise move in order actually crush him.

[pariah]

Well, it really depends on exactly how close he needs to get. Realistically, he would need to make contact, which would kill him in this game. So do you want them to be thrown, like Sticky Bombs, or placed, like real life?

[DrRockzo1986]

I guess you would technically be throwing it but it would be in close enough that it would be like he's planting but not so close that the guy can just turn or move and crush the planter. Do you get what im saying?

[pariah]

Yeah, you could try that. Not so sure it would work that well, though...

[Blackbishop]

Yeah, you could try that. Not so sure it would work that well, though...

I'm sure that is not going to work. As Pariah said before, Stickies worked in this way, but there's a reason why relic made them homing devices.

No one would let you get close to a tank to plant it and also, most likely you will lost all your squad trying to plant it. Giving you less soldiers to fight him.

[DrRockzo1986]

Well I said before that if its possible you could make the squad (or even just the guy planting) invincible to being crushed. You know since he has to get in close Im sure his awareness is goin to be alot higher and that awareness could be translated as his invincibility to being crushed. Again if thats even possible.

[pariah]

I guess it would be possible, but it wouldn't be good. Think of the poor Sniper with the worthless rifle...

[DrRockzo1986]

Oh lol I just got waht you were saying  . Yeah i can see that they just keep moving away or something like that. Well I guess we could make it like Stickys but with more damage and only slightly less range if that would satisfy the devs.
Post Merge: June 28, 2011, 06:18:27 PM

I guess it would be possible, but it wouldn't be good. Think of the poor Sniper with the worthless rifle...

Lol i think this one went way over my head.
Post Merge: June 28, 2011, 06:26:12 PMOk well how about this: they could add a sprint effect to it that lasts from when the ability is intiated until the thing is planted to make sure that the tank wont be able to get away or at least get away as easily.

[Chancellor]

It is unacceptable if it has less range than a stickie.  Stickies at their normal range can already be kited easily.  Imagine riflemen trying to stickie a puma except the stickies have even less range.  A big massacre will occur.  Doesn't matter if there's sprint; vehicles can still kite.  Invincibility to being crushed is just stupid and poor balance.  This is really an idea only bridge map noobs think of.  Its not practical in-game.

[pariah]

You do realize we're talking from the Axis side, right? Allies don't have a vehicle that can massacre infantry like that, except for the Stuart, but that's an ability, and very hit-and-miss...

[Blackbishop]

You do realize we're talking from the Axis side, right? Allies don't have a vehicle that can massacre infantry like that, except for the Stuart, but that's an ability, and very hit-and-miss...

Even if allies don't have a vehicle that can match Wehr Infantry killers, his point is correct, what are you going to "stick" ?? a M8/Sherman/M10? The last one will crush anything that comes near, the other two are good against infantry let alone that they can kite pretty well (not too sure about the sherman though). Ofc, there could be situations where this can be done, e.g. with a player with poor micro, distracted or in team games where an ally treadbroke the enemy vehicle/tank.

[pariah]

I know he's correct, and i agree, but i'm just trying to be fair is all...

[Blackbishop]

I know he's correct, and i agree, but i'm just trying to be fair is all...

Yeah, but we all agree that this cannot be implemented in EF in this way . It's not about not being fair, just that doesn't fit. Perhaps in a realistic mod this could be in the described way but not in a mod that has the same gameplay than CoH.

So, if somehow this idea is applied to Ostheer, they will behave like US stickies and not like demo charges.

[pariah]

Well, i like to be fair...

I don't think they should be in Eastern Front if they are exactly like Sticky Bombs, because i hate copy-paste things...