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« Reply #45 on: June 27, 2011, 12:23:54 AM »
A double-barreled shotgun? I can't see that EVER working in warfare...

I read this on Wiki about an Austrialian Major who used a Sawn-Off during WW1...

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During the trench warfare of the Gallipoli Campaign, Major Stephen Midgley of the Australian 5th Light Horse Regiment was widely known to use a sawn-off double barrelled shotgun while leading his troops, the weapon's effectiveness resulting in Turkish officers complaining that it was not a 'weapon of war' under international law after Midgley took one Turkish soldier's head "clean off his shoulders". Midgley was ordered by an Australian general to cease using his shotgun and switch to a conventional rifle and bayonet, to which the Major was "bitterly peeved"

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« Reply #46 on: June 27, 2011, 12:31:19 AM »
Haha, gotta love those crazy Aussies! ;D

So, erm... A Turk complained about it being too effective? And the Aussies ordered him to stop using it? Huh, that's weird... ??? Well, i guess it's nice to see such respect between enemies. I guess... :-\

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« Reply #47 on: June 27, 2011, 12:43:15 AM »
A double-barreled shotgun? I can't see that EVER working in warfare...
In assault is would. Break open a door, shoot one guy with a whiff of buckshot, then the other. Re-load and keep going. It would of course be an improvised weapon, but a deadly close quarters one at that.

I was thinking the shotgun upgrade could work like this, one squad member gets it and it acts as normal rifle, but with less range (deer slug,) but it has a special attack area ability that spreads pellets across an area, killing and stunning any enemies caught in range. Sort of like the Stuart's shotgun ability.

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« Reply #48 on: June 27, 2011, 12:46:12 AM »
Reloading 1 of those things would be extremely difficult in combat situations, no?

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« Reply #49 on: June 27, 2011, 02:36:29 AM »
Doble barrel sawed off shot gun sound more like case for russians... They are supposed to be severe?

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« Reply #50 on: June 27, 2011, 03:10:17 AM »
Were there any military shotguns the Russians used at this time?
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« Reply #51 on: June 27, 2011, 03:27:09 AM »
I talked about non convention weapon. They had lots of hunters I guess.

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« Reply #52 on: June 27, 2011, 03:31:12 AM »
No, WW2's Soviet Army never used Shotguns, not even Double Barreled. They would be found during Booty Raids and shipped of home as souvenirs, never used as weapons of war. They had PPSh-41s and PPS-43s, they really didn't need shotguns. Plus, Russian hunters preferred to use Rifles, not shotguns, so there would be very little, if any, proper ammunition for shotguns.

Americans, Brits, and Germans (with their M30 Lufftwaffe drilling survival weapon) used shotguns as actual tools of war in any large quantity.

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« Reply #53 on: June 27, 2011, 03:49:06 AM »

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« Reply #54 on: June 27, 2011, 03:53:28 AM »
...What exactly are you trying to say with that piece of art? ???

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« Reply #55 on: June 27, 2011, 03:57:11 AM »
Solder is handling some thing like shotgun, I think

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« Reply #56 on: June 27, 2011, 03:57:42 AM »
Not sure what you are showing us, but the weapons the infantry man is holding is a Mosin-Nagant, I'm not sure what model that is but it looks like either the M38 Carbine variant, or the M1891/30 standard Soviet Mosin model, can't tell because I cannot see the barrel length, nor the bayonet style.

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« Reply #57 on: June 27, 2011, 03:58:28 AM »
Yeah, looks like a rifle to me...

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« Reply #58 on: June 27, 2011, 04:06:06 AM »

This one is sure sawed off rifle  :P

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and this
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« Reply #59 on: June 27, 2011, 05:37:36 AM »
Looks like an SVT/G43 with 2 PPShs to me in that first picture...
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