4v4 problems

[FLgator]

This has probably been discussed, however, I try to play 4v4 matches on EF and they almost never work. I have been told that this is a relic problem.

If this is a relic problem, what does EF have to do to fix these problems? Is the answer to be bought out by relic, or hope relic picks up eastern front?  Do these same 4v4 problems exist on regular COH.

When I used to play COHO exclusively, I remember there were small 4v4 problems, but on the whole 4v4 functioned very well. Why are there so many problems with EF. 4v4s just rarely seem to work. Is relic aware of this, and if so, is anything in the works for them to fix this problem?

[Killar]

To sort some things out lower graphics first that you get decent frame rates in a 4vs4.

Relic server problems cant be solved by EF as you know

[FLgator]

So my question is, what is relic doing about this? 4v4 games are horrible. They crash all the time, have connection issues. It is really bad.

[pariah]

I never had these issues...

[vonklaus]

 They probably aren't doing anything the game came out over half a decade ago they have newer games. Most people think ww2 is lame. They make more money of space orcs and elfs. It sucks but its the way of the road.

[Max 'DonXavi' von B.]

Most people think ww2 is lame. They make more money of space orcs and elfs. It sucks but its the way of the road.

+99999

[pariah]

Less than half a decade ago, actually.

[Cranialwizard]

2006, IIRC. So that's half a decade this year.

[pariah]

September, i believe. I'd have to find my receipt again... It's around here somewhere....

[RedGuard]

4v4's are disaster balance wise and performance wise - I avoid any matches above a 2v2

[Cranialwizard]

3v3's are ok with players with good preformance and connection.

Most 4v4 maps are just stupendous and ignore most balance, and the maps are too large, so as soon as you make a unit it could take a few minutes for it to arrive to the front lines by infantry. (Haltracks come in handy here but otherwise travel times are ridiculous.)

[pariah]

What, you want 8 players on a small map?

[Max 'DonXavi' von B.]

Medium sized maps are ok, such as Hochwald Gap. Maps like EFs Rostov however are too huge for infantry (travel times of several minutes), I agree with Cranial here.

[pariah]

I don't like Hochwald Gap because the A.I. gets all its vehicles caught up on the bridges, preventing me from moving any of my own out of the base area.

But i don't mind waiting for my troops to arrive, because my enemy has the same problem.

[Max 'DonXavi' von B.]

I don't like Hochwald Gap because the A.I. gets all its vehicles caught up on the bridges, preventing me from moving any of my own out of the base area.

I was only talking about the map size here and not the crappy layout

But i don't mind waiting for my troops to arrive, because my enemy has the same problem.

Yeah but it kills the dynamic charakter of CoH. It isn't meant to be like Age of Empires with huuuuge maps.