Polish soldiers in Soviet Army 1944-1945. Should they be added to Russians in EF

[Aleo0op]

The Polish First Army (Polish: Pierwsza Armia Wojska Polskiego, 1 AWP for short) was a Polish Army unit formed in the Soviet Union in 1944, from the previously existing Polish I Corps as part of the People's Army of Poland (LWP).



The Polish Second Army (Polish: Druga Armia Wojska Polskiego, 2. AWP for short) was a Polish Army unit formed in the Soviet Union in 1944 as part of the People's Army of Poland. The organization begun in August under the command of generals Karol Świerczewski and Stanislav Poplavsky, and the formation under command of general Świerczewski entered active duty in January 1945. The Second Army suffered heavy losses at the Battle of Bautzen during April 22-26, 1945. Subsequently, the Second Army was part of the final great Soviet offensive of World War II in Europe, the drive on Prague. In August 1945 most of the formation was used to create the Poznań Military District.

Post Merge: June 02, 2011, 11:03:22 AMhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Army_(Poland) [nofollow]
                                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Army_(Poland) [nofollow]

[Desert_Fox]

http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=5934.0

Read the aswers.

[Aleo0op]

i am not talkin about making a new faction but they ''can'' be  used instead of The Naval infantry  in the release of new patch or as a reward unit i dunno

[Aleo0op]

Well i dont know who does the partasians represent but not polish at all .... but if they do there missin one little thing (i am not concernd about it) the polish language 

[Desert_Fox]

Everyone would like to see their nation in the game but you can understand that Devs has something called PRIORITIES, which cosist:

- Preparing all stuff for Ostheer faction
- Balance the Russian faction

These 2 things to do at the same time.

I think you can draw your conclusions...all polish units (like other nation extra-CoH) to do (animation, design and voices) are a waste of time ATM.

[Aleo0op]

If u wanna know i am irish and i know that devs have more feking important than makin new faction and i never thought of making new faction but as a reward unit or doctrine unit 

[Sommarkatze]

I have to ask even if its kind of Off topic but, if you are irish. Why the hell do you wanna see a polish unit so bad? XD

[Aleo0op]

i want to see them so badly cause they were fighting in eastern europe in world war 2 aswell along the with the russians 

[Desert_Fox]

Honestly I don't care nothing from which country you come from...but don't come here to cry that you want see Polish troops in RA.
I'm sure that it's not in the priorities of Devs.
There's nothing to discuss.

[Aleo0op]

i never came here to cry and ''want to see'' but give the idea that they can be added its for devs to decide not for me and i know that its hard beacuse my uncle is doing that kind of stuff and i know devs have more important stuff to do but i just came here and say what i think there is no need to give out man

[Blackbishop]

I think it's too late for that, unless you can think about a new unit, with a high coolness factor that we must add it as reward unit for something .

[Aleo0op]

what do you mean for something
Post Merge: June 02, 2011, 08:30:03 PMI came up with 2 ideas

Idea number 1:
 a polish six man squad (instead of naval inf. from propaganda strategy) one officer and 5 men. at the start armed
with: officer with Pistol Tokarev TT and 5 men armed with Mosin Nagats can be upgraded for 70 munition with: 2 PPSh-41 Sub-Machinegun
and 3 SVT-40 and and officer would get PPS-43 Sub-Machinegun

they would cost 385 Manpower to call in and 35 manpower to reinforce cost :2 CP same as naval inf.
they would have ability to throw anti-infantry grenades

Idea number 2: a polish 3 man squad (instead of naval inf in propagand startegy or mechanics in breakthrough startegy)
wich starts armed with 2 Mosin Nagats and 1 PPSh-41 Sub-machinegun and could be upgraded For 50 munitions
with: 2 SVT-40 and dp-28


they would cost 295 Manpower and reinforce for 25 manpower
once vet 1 would be able to throw invisibility while moving
once vet 2 would be unsupressable
once vet 3 gains additional man to the group with mosin-nagat after upgrade SVT-40
for breaking through enemy defneses and going deep into enemy territory
costs 1CP or 2CP

i might still come up with more ideas

[Paciat]

1. Why should Polish soldiers differ in any way to Strelky (what makes them different to a common Soviet soldier)?
2. Why should Poland have any officers if most of them were killed by Stalin/send to Siberia/went west to work with their true allies?

[Aleo0op]

in fact ''most'' of the polish officers were killed in smolensk but still poles in 1944 were 10% of russian army and i think they deserve to be in this mod but is not up to me to decide but to devs if they will have time to do it i cant force them or anything
Post Merge: June 02, 2011, 09:57:28 PMand by the way in 1944 polish 2 armies fought alongside with russians .
Polsih first army
Active             July 1944 - August 1945
Engagements     
Dęblin 1944
Puławy 1944
Warszawa 1944-45
Kolberg 1945
Berlin 1945
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_First_Army [nofollow]

Polish Second Army
Active            August 1944-August 1945

Engagements
Bautzen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Second_Army [nofollow]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Armed_Forces_in_the_East [nofollow]
Read this to prove youre wrong

[neosdark]

Guess I'm gonna have to add even more units to that bloody list i made. Anyway, the reason we will not add the Polish in any way shape or form is the following

1) Most of the community really doesn't care what country the soldiers they are using come from. It says Soviet Union, THAT IS ALL.
2) The Polish do in fact have a representative in the Soviet army, If you look closely on the back of the SU-76 doctrinal unit, you would notice a small eagle with a few numbers written above it, members of a Soviet-Polish tank crew.
3) The Devs cannot appease everyone and listing to one guys request while ignoring millions of other ones is quite biased so they don't really listen to too many people unless the idea is so good, it blows the roof off. Yours looks quite.....shall i say boring, we have seen tons of such ideas on the forum and it will not happen. Plus If i may add:

                 BALANCE>HISTORICAL FACT

So no one here really cares much about your lovely numbers, dates and historical facts.