Ostheer Update 7: Modernisation

[Raider217]

• US: M-18, T-17, Sherman 105, Sherman Jumbo
• Brits: Kangaroo, Staghound, Comet, RMC
• Wehr: Schwimmwagen Type 166, Geschutzwagen, Voss Tiger and Tiger Ace.
• PE: Schwimmwagen Type 128, Hotchkiss, Jagdpanzer IV and
• SU: KV series, SU-122, IS-3 and

Just remembering the main suggestions/discussions for those spots
PE: Sturmtiger-Hummel or JagdTiger-JagdPanther
SU: Who knows

ATM more worried bout IS-3 and KV series to care all that much

[Blackbishop]

Jagdtiger is out of EF . But i think the last reward unit for PE is going to surprise you .

About the sturmtiger, Halftrack have a model (which uses in his mod, BotB) but we haven't asked him to use it so... it's not a Sturmtiger->Hummel but certainly is closer XD.

[GodlikeDennis]

Yeah not a bad guess lol.

[BurroDiablo]

Doesn't the Sturmtiger in BotB basically throw out a V1?

Wonder if the guys over on Moddb will find this acceptable. We could mod it into a V1 machine gun! Yay, For the Fatherland! and all that ballocks.

[RedGuard]

Doesn't the Sturmtiger in BotB basically throw out a V1?

sounds like a buff is in order

[GodlikeDennis]

I hate UP useless units.

[Venoxxis]

Jagdtiger is out of EF . But i think the last reward unit for PE is going to surprise you .

About the sturmtiger, Halftrack have a model (which uses in his mod, BotB) but we haven't asked him to use it so... it's not a Sturmtiger->Hummel but certainly is closer XD.

The upcoming units you didnt mention are the hint , well i wasnt long time around here..
Do we get for EVERY faction all 4 reward units in the upcoming patch? o_O


another thing:

To be honest, Voss Tiger is a waste of space and doesn't count as a reward unit. You guys should think about another reward unit for Wehr (not the Maus lol).

Actually this is a fact. Voss Tiger skin is:
1) just a skin
2) boring, because there are no stat changes
3) another Tiger

So, no reward units after all. Either it should be replaced or another reward unit should be added.

Regards,
-V-

[Troynl]

BurroDiablo, are you saying that you are not going to add the Maus?! I am heartbroken!

 

Why does it have to be the Maus? 

because it is a stupid super tank, and people love stupid super tanks.

[RedGuard]

@venoxxis maybe you missed the memo, we said hauptman schultz Black tiger ace is a reward now for the king tiger. it takes the place of the old jagtiger. 4 units total


think of the black tiger as a faster tiger, with more hitpoints. very, very dangerous
it is better suited to offensive role than the standard tiger, but at the same time the vet 3 blitz tiger is more survivable IMO with the vet mods it gets like damage reduction, more HP, and deflection modifier. plus you can always call another in. slap the voss skin on it and you're big pimpin

[GodlikeDennis]

No, I think he understands fine. He's probably more excited than any other single person on here about it. We're discussing the pointlessness of including the Voss Tiger skin in the 4 reward per faction limit.

The Soviets only get 3 rewards in the next patch. Propaganda doctrine is completely redone as well though so I guess that sort of counts. I wonder if anyone can guess what the new PE unit will be before it's announced (who isn't a dev, tester or translator of course).

[Max 'DonXavi' von B.]

Isn't the fourth Soviet reward unit ready to be implemented? 

[RedGuard]

No, I think he understands fine. He's probably more excited than any other single person on here about it. We're discussing the pointlessness of including the Voss Tiger skin in the 4 reward per faction limit.

ohhh, well I'd have to agree. A skin shouldnt count as a 4th and final reward unit. it wouldn't be fair. So im with you guys on that

[GodlikeDennis]

There is no 4th Soviet reward yet Maxi.

The PE unit is not another KT.

[sniper_bow]

@ Hypersnyper999 for one i'm not a centurion lover you chopper and what this has to do with the eastern front? I dunno maybe you should ask why the eastern front devs added RMC as reward unit when its all about the eastern front. I'm not bothered that the IS 3 will be in the game and the centurion won't be in the game and never will be... who cares i'm looking forward to all the stuff that the devs are up to including the next update and the Ostheer, just because i have less posts than you doesn't give you the divine right to try and be little me on a public forum either you registered the day after me on this forum but i don't hold this against you C.R.O.W. "kaaa.... kaaa"  so wind your neck in.

IS3 never fought in europe and loads of sources other than wikipedia say this as well, plus soviet combat records have no records of it ever fighting on the eastern front and it was DEPLOYED to manchuria in august 1945 and never fought and it soon got replaced, atleast there was the centurion mk1 in europe in may 1945 so much as myth could be said about the IS3 plus the centurion went on to a distinguished career, and i doubt the same could be said about the IS3 even in foreign armies such as egypt.

 "IS-3 was reported by several German units, both in Pomerania to the north and in Vienna to the south, but none of those sightings are confirmed by ANY Soviet source - and the Vienna sighting is definitely fake, because we can track the equipment of every Soviet tank unit that was there.
In fact, I have identified four Guards Heavy Tank Regiments that were sent to the rear in 1945 to be retrained and re-equipped with the iS-3. They were:
35th Guards Tank Regiment - sent back to the Belorussian-Litovsk District on 20 April 1945
67th and 113th Guards Tank Regiments, both sent back to the L'vov District on 21 April 1945
113th Guards Tank Regiment, formed from the 121st Guards SU Regiment in February 1945 and never returned to the front.
Note that none of these units returned to the front, or even to the command of any H in the Active Army at the front, before the war ended.
Interestingly, there are NO heavy tank regiments that go into reserve in late 1944-early 1945 and then return to the front, so there was no opportunity for a unit to be equipped and trained on the new vehicles and then get back into the fight before the war (in Europe) ended.
Finally, none of this means that knowledge of the IS-3 was absent from front-line Soviet tankers, and therefore available to the Germans from POW reports. Remember that part of the training of Soviet tank crewmen took place at the tank factories, so members in training in late 1944 could very likely have seen IS-3s being assembled and taken that knowledge back to the front before the end of the war. I have copies of POW interrogations from early 1943 in which Soviet tankers described the new "T-43" tank to the Germans - a vehicle that was only built as a prototype and never fielded at all! It would not surprise me at all to find similar reports on the IS-3 being built in much larger numbers just before the war ended..."
arm chair general

 "The first test group of JS-3's left the factory gates in mid-May 1945. Despite western opinion (usually I hear about JS-3's seen on the streets of Vienna/Berlin), JS-3 tanks weren't involved in battles on the Eastern Front. The participation of JS-3's in Far Eastern Front battles (in August 1945) is still unverified: at least one tank regiment of JS-3 tanks was sent, but Soviet combat records don't confirm any actual combat. Although never available in large numbers, it was for a decade the most powerful tank in the world and a major influence on subsequent tank designs. After the war the IS-3 was supplied to the Soviet bloc countries of Czechoslovakia, the German Democratic Republic (DDR, East Germany), and Poland; it was also exported to Egypt, Libya, and Syria."
Airlandseaweapons.com
I'd suggest using that chart yourself burrodiablo you wee dundarheeed

[luz777]

Aye, also hoping the Voss Tiger isn't counting towards the Reward Unit limit for Wehr.

Two reward Tigers seems abit much, especially when there's already one in game anyhow.

Cheers