[1.3.1.0]THE Official SU-100 removal thread

[RedGuard]

Sigh... you could use the PM function for this you know.

Next time someone else post an off topic comment I'll close this, since looks like has no future and is just a flame war.

I'll only say this, currently there are a couple of choices for Tank Hall, both of them exclude the SU-100 and one of them will be used for the next patch.

This is not debatable. However, it's fair to offer an explanation about it, but until one decision is taken, i can just say(and is my personal opinion not the official one) that isn't necessary and costs too much to do for the average player, due to the muni upkeep and the upgrade cost... once you start rolling tanks your munis will stop to accumulate and eventually will be depleted. Currently SU-100 will have some tweaks, removing the splash dmg being among them, but don't expect to be a SU-100 renamed.

Awesome, thank you for offering an official explenation BB(blackbishop)

I bolded su-100 in ur quote I take it u meant su-85? to be clear kinda confused me.

an for the record I also agree with ur above opinion on the muni upkeep and it not being viable

[Blackbishop]

Sigh... you could use the PM function for this you know.

Next time someone else post an off topic comment I'll close this, since looks like has no future and is just a flame war.

I'll only say this, currently there are a couple of choices for Tank Hall, both of them exclude the SU-100 and one of them will be used for the next patch.

This is not debatable. However, it's fair to offer an explanation about it, but until one decision is taken, i can just say(and is my personal opinion not the official one) that isn't necessary and costs too much to do for the average player, due to the muni upkeep and the upgrade cost... once you start rolling tanks your munis will stop to accumulate and eventually will be depleted. Currently SU-100 will have some tweaks, removing the splash dmg being among them, but don't expect to be a SU-100 renamed.

Awesome, thank you for offering an official explenation BB(blackbishop)

I bolded su-100 in ur quote I take it u meant su-85? to be clear kinda confused me.

an for the record I also agree with ur above opinion on the muni upkeep and it not being viable

XD!!!!! Yes... i meant SU-85... well, at least the SU-85 will have proper portrait now .

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[GodlikeDennis]

I never double shrek gren squads because I don't like to deal with the drop chance. With 1 shrek, the squad almost never drops them. I don't like to keep all my eggs in one basket anyway, it's too risky against allied arty. Also, it's easier to hit a tank's rear armour if you have two squads.

On the topic of the SU-100: It is being removed currently because it's rather redundant. SU-85s already penetrate everything and deal good damage. The SU-100 will probably return in some other way soon. The SU-85 is currently undergoing redesign on where it fits in the faction and it's stats are currently changing to compensate. It will always be available from the light tankovy upgrade.

[cephalos]

I never liked SU-100. It just looks so... hilarious with it's long barrel.

[RedGuard]

trademark of Soviet tank design. love it or hate it.
If I was driver I'd be afraid of bending the barrel on a bump!

but yeah the Su-100 was never really used(in game) and crazy expensive. I'm glad the 100 is gone and the 85 is being reworked to compensate
Interesting little fact that suprised me. More 100's were built than 85's

my suggestion is to change old su-85 to SU-85-II, which had better targeting and LoS. I hope it doesnt get some crippling cost increase
I'm just dying to know exactly what they're doing to this "reworked" su85

+1 dev team! 

[Paciat]

I never liked SU-100. It just looks so... hilarious with it's long barrel.

Im sure you dont laugh when they do the only thing they are good at - destroy youre tanks.
The whole point of getting a SU is destroing panzers. Noone should say its OP since it has 250HP less than T-34 (SU-85 will recive same armor type), no turret and its crap vs infantry. Its (and SU-85) gun could be nerfed a little - dmg modifiers vs Tigers and Panthers since the whole point of having heavy tanks is that they cant be destroyed easily but thats all.

my suggestion is to change old su-85 to SU-85-II, which had better targeting and LoS.

SU-85 gets 20% accuracy bonus at vet 1.

Ballancing SU is difficult like any other high dmg low cost unit (sharpshooter) but I dont see a reason why SU-85 should stay ingame and SU-100 be removed (expensive gun upgrade isnt a real reason).

[Blackbishop]

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SU-85 gets 20% accuracy bonus at vet 1.

Ballancing SU is difficult like any other high dmg low cost unit (sharpshooter) but I dont see a reason why SU-85 should stay ingame and SU-100 be removed (expensive gun upgrade isnt a real reason).

Besides is redundant, we are working to tweak some aspects of the soviets(being Propaganda War one of them). By now you should know what we're looking for SU-85 in the next changelog topic (You know, i agree with BurroDiablo's plan ).

Currently SU-100 is, in BurroDiablo's words, a fugly SU-85 with cage armor and larger gun. That will be the first model to be reworked afaik.

[Cranialwizard]

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Currently SU-100 is, in BurroDiablo's words, a fugly SU-85 with cage armor and larger gun. That will be the first model to be reworked afaik.

Bu...Bu...But I like my cage armor

[Blackbishop]

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Currently SU-100 is, in BurroDiablo's words, a fugly SU-85 with cage armor and larger gun. That will be the first model to be reworked afaik.

Bu...Bu...But I like my cage armor

I don't know if the new model will use cage armor too XD.

[Cranialwizard]

Infact the pretty Cage Armor and the bigger gun was a big temptation in getting the SU-100 in matches...

[RedGuard]

Yeah if you got su100s rolling out in MP you could pretty much tell axis armor FU! and forget about it