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Offline Dominic 'Dragon' Cassidy

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Re: Ostheer Update 6: Ostheer Army Troops
« Reply #45 on: April 15, 2011, 05:26:08 AM »
The invasion began what, June 1941? So was that before or after Mercury? After Mercury major Fallschirmjager air drops became rare doue to the disaster Mercury was in the beginning.
Germans didn't really exercise a lot of paradropping during that war. So these guys, doctrinally dropping from above in copious numbers (everybody loves to spam call-in elite, +the "super reinforcement" thing), is like that ridiculous V-rocket firing at military targets.
I don't see a reason why this should be discarded. If can be balanced and it's not a crazy idea, i don't see a problem.
Still, wouldn't be accurate would it?
Although then again, you have Penal Conscripts running around also...


The German Airborne; aka Fallschrimjagers did indeed stop airborne assaults - and eventually completed stopped getting any airborne training.
After Mercury Hitler more or less banned large scale airborne operations; small scale landings continued.
Brandenburgers converted to being completely land based though in September 1944.

Anyway - the way they will be working in EF won't be for large scale operations like the US Airborne in CoH. Skilled and deadly; they'll be designed to fuck shit up and annoy you ;)
Late 1944 when the majority of Brandenburgers met their end..."Many Brandenburgers, highly skilled in evading detection, simply disappeared."

"Operating under false identity of NKVD Major Truchin based in Stalingrad, Fölkersam explained his role in recovering the deserters to the Soviet commander in charge of Maikop's defenses. The commander not only believed Fölkersam, but the next day gave him a personal tour of the city's defenses. By August 8, the German spearheads were only 12 miles away. The Brandenburgers made their move. Using grenades to simulate an artillery attack, they knocked out the military communications center for the city. Fölkersam then went to the Russian defenders and told them that a withdrawal was taking place. Having seen Fölkersam with their commander and lacking any communications to rebut or confirm his statement, the Soviets began to evacuate Maikop. The German spearhead entered the city without a fight on August 9, 1942."

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Note; Brandenburger paratroopers will be 2 man squads.


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Re: Ostheer Update 6: Ostheer Army Troops
« Reply #46 on: April 15, 2011, 05:47:30 AM »
i like the it but what are the panzernests for? and what will tripwires do?
i like the skins but are those landser on the top pics?
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Re: Ostheer Update 6: Ostheer Army Troops
« Reply #47 on: April 15, 2011, 06:35:20 AM »
i like the it but what are the panzernests for? and what will tripwires do?
i like the skins but are those landser on the top pics?

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Re: Ostheer Update 6: Ostheer Army Troops
« Reply #48 on: April 15, 2011, 07:17:50 AM »
So, I suppose, it should reflect axis forces on the eastern front, not in Italy, etc.,- that's what other axis factions are there for, to begin with.

Mussolini sent a large number of troops (relatively small compared to Germany as a whole, but enough to be significant) to fight on the eastern front, and there were Italian divisions in Stalingrad at the time of the siege. Of course, they were devastated due to the horrible morale, and the losses at Stalingrad really de-moralized Italians back home.
Man, RE-READ my message, you've quoted here, and get it: it's not about italian troops, it's about absurdness and OPness of axis elite paratroopers.

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Re: Ostheer Update 6: Ostheer Army Troops
« Reply #49 on: April 15, 2011, 11:33:25 AM »
Foreign troops? OMG Will there any of these vehicles?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/39M_Csaba
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toldi_%28tank%29
These units power like the Scout car in PE (the 39M), and Stuard light tank (the Toldi). Or that havent decided yet? :) Or will be vanilla Panzer 3s, or infantry, but different skins? Interesting and creative doctrines ther keep it up!  ;D

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Re: Ostheer Update 6: Ostheer Army Troops
« Reply #50 on: April 15, 2011, 11:53:12 AM »
So.. A few question because my first ones (1st page) seem to be ignored  :P

Will the Panzernest (yes, I saw the picture) be an anti tank mine?

What's the 7 member squad in the first picture?

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Re: Ostheer Update 6: Ostheer Army Troops
« Reply #51 on: April 15, 2011, 12:01:04 PM »
Its not a 7 member squad, just members from 2 Landstorm squads lol

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Re: Ostheer Update 6: Ostheer Army Troops
« Reply #52 on: April 15, 2011, 12:03:47 PM »
So these are Landsers, right?

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Re: Ostheer Update 6: Ostheer Army Troops
« Reply #53 on: April 15, 2011, 12:13:06 PM »
Landseers and Landstorm are two different words with two different meanings. You can alsways google them for more info  ;)
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Re: Ostheer Update 6: Ostheer Army Troops
« Reply #54 on: April 15, 2011, 12:27:02 PM »
@GSmirlis the Communist.
Why do you need Romanian army?
first Ostheer can also fight against USA, and Romanian didn't fight against the USA.
Second: it doesn't add much, calling them Romanian support, if you realy want your Romanian army, just RP it or something.
+1
Romanian support tree?? If at the end they made to be in the foreign units under a random name is enough for them.

+1 yeah! just add their name :D
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Re: Ostheer Update 6: Ostheer Army Troops
« Reply #55 on: April 15, 2011, 01:43:10 PM »
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Will the Panzernest (yes, I saw the picture) be an anti tank mine?

I think it will be a mg nest because in the picture you can clearly see the MG.

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Prioritised Support - 2CP (For a short period of time Ostheer produce more resources)

That's overpowerd because the Wehrmacht gets a ressource boost only as the last ability. I think you should switch it with Prioritised Weapons - 2CP (For a short period of time Ostheer produce units faster).
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Re: Ostheer Update 6: Ostheer Army Troops
« Reply #56 on: April 15, 2011, 01:58:17 PM »
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Prioritised Support - 2CP (For a short period of time Ostheer produce more resources)

That's overpowerd because the Wehrmacht gets a ressource boost only as the last ability. I think you should switch it with Prioritised Weapons - 2CP (For a short period of time Ostheer produce units faster).
i get your point but we don't know anything about duration and costs and how much additional ressources it will give. let's wait for OH beta balance tests  ;)
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Re: Ostheer Update 6: Ostheer Army Troops
« Reply #57 on: April 15, 2011, 02:42:46 PM »
Looks pretty cool, though I thought you guys weren't going to do foreign troops?  I don't personally have a problem with it, just that's the tone I seem to have gotten from previous discussions on the topic.  ;)

I'm not so sure about the paratroopers since there were never any German airborne operations on the Russian Front (and none at all after the Battle of Crete in May 1941, though I'm sure most of you knew that already), but this mod isn't trying to be strictly historical so I suppose it's okay.

Just bugs me a leeetle.  :P


A few airborne dropes were done in Russia;for example,during the battle of Moscow,a company of FJ were dropped over the airport,but anyway they were not common,and not large enough to include more then 1-2 companies.

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Re: Ostheer Update 6: Ostheer Army Troops
« Reply #58 on: April 15, 2011, 04:05:40 PM »
Much better picture of a Panzernest. It even explains how it was mobile!

http://www.warlordgames.co.uk/neo/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/osprey_panzernest.jpg

Please don't tell me pios can move it?  :D
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Re: Ostheer Update 6: Ostheer Army Troops
« Reply #59 on: April 15, 2011, 04:13:27 PM »
No.
It wont be able to move.
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