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Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2011, 12:26:34 AM »


On the battlefield I dont think a kilt was an allowed uniform accessory for the troops?

was just an idea to make the army unique but I'm only thinking about giving them to the officers  :P
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Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2011, 12:54:49 AM »
Make command squad with one kilt officer and dude playing on pipes xD

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Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2011, 12:59:58 AM »
Many Scottish Regiments wore kilts in battle during WW1. During WW2 they were seen as impractical, and weren't worn after Dunkirk. However during D-Day Lord Lovat of the Special Service Brigade was followed by his piper who was wearing a kilt, onto Sword Beach (as seen in the movie The Longest Day).

Today though, they are part of the ceremonial uniforms for the Scottish Regiments of the British Army, and many of the primary reserve regiments in Canada.
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Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2011, 05:27:37 AM »
Many Scottish Regiments wore kilts in battle during WW1. During WW2 they were seen as impractical, and weren't worn after Dunkirk. However during D-Day Lord Lovat of the Special Service Brigade was followed by his piper onto Sword Beach (as seen in the movie The Longest Day).

Today though, they are part of the ceremonial uniforms for the Scottish Regiments of the British Army, and many of the primary reserve regiments in Canada.

The name of the piper on sword beach was Bill Millin.

I recall seeing pictures of Kilt clad warriors in the western Desert.
Not surprising however as 30th Corps and 8th Army were issued khaki shorts for the desert. In his memoir The General Danced at Dawn, George McDonald Fraser, (widely known for The Flashman Papers), speaks of kilts in Iraq, but I don't know if that was before or after the capture of Mosul.

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Posted by: Dapperdawg                                                       Canada has its own regiments of highlanders  and has a black watch regiment who wear kilts formed by scottish  chieftains when they were forced to canada (search up the highland  clearances) so it's okay for them to have kilts  :P and I'll try and make it so that one unit has kilts and not the army (perhaps the command squad) ;)

How about adding a piper using the Red Flag Strelky as a model

The 42nd Highlanders "Black Watch" attacked Fort Ticonderoga (AKA Ft. Carrillion) 1n 1756 or1757. They were repulsed by Les Voyageurs du Bois and Algonguin Indians  at the abatis. The Black watch wore kilts.

Sommerkatze You should be aware of the "Devils Brigade" 1SSF? They were an Elite assembly of American and Canadian loggers, roughnecks and Ne'rdowells trained for Airborne Ranger service. They landed at Anzio and paradropped into The South of France. They didn't wear kilts though.  ;)
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Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2011, 06:05:49 AM »
Cool, didn't know about soldiers wearing kilts in the African campaign. I suppose it makes sense though that they would bring them, either just through pride or for ceremonial purposes and the fact it was hot. Kind of off subject from the kilts, but every once in awhile I'll come across pictures of soldiers wearing their regiment/branch berets in combat situations, not necessarily the smartest thing but still brave.

Also you reminded me about how the devil's brigade used all American equipment but still answered to the Canadian Army(Canadian soldiers anyways). In game, that might be interesting, a mixed unit of Canadians/Americans with upgradeable equipment that's good at defense but even better at offensive actions.

That's something I noticed the new SAS unit in the new patch lacked. Good for assault but didn't have any special abilities.


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Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2011, 06:38:26 AM »
I think the 1SSF was independent of both the Canadians and USA armies. Thet Probably reported to SHAEF, if they reported to anybody: they were an unruly lot. Many Armies used American equipment during WWII, Thats what Lend Lease was all about. In Ef even the Sovs have a LL Sherman. Although mostly the US sent the Russians Trucks. This allowed the Sovs to concentrate on tank production. 1000 T34s a month!

1ssf: give 'em fire-up and call-in infiltration ability.
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Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2011, 06:54:43 AM »
Most definitely as a unit but the Canadian soldiers themselves answered and followed the Canadian Army's code of regulations as I'm sure the American's did as well. It was definitely a unique unit. The British and Germans organized units/special forces with mixed nationalities but 1SSF definitely had a different identity.

But your post definitely brings up the fact that SHAEF was in charge. The reason I brought up the equipment issue was the Canadian soldiers in 1SSF were the only ones that were using American equipment (even uniforms) completely at a battalion or divisional level.

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Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2011, 09:18:32 AM »
I'm really liking the stuff that you guys are coming up with ;D . anyway I'm gonna try and get a few sketches of them done today and hopefully uploaded  ;) .
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Re: Canadian faction idea's :use ofGUI's make sense to y'all?
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2011, 03:58:19 PM »
I am a game designer. I joined the EF_community in January 2011. It took me until March to get a handle on how the DevTeam is approaching EF_Ostheer. I came on board too late to participate in the  Ostheer project, (you don't change horses in the middle of a stream), Many of my game design ideas are good but not consistent with the concepts Dragon93 is working on  for Ostheer. I don't wish to "rock the boat".

 WTF is this guy talking about?

Y'all want to make a faction. how are you going to implement your unit ideas into a CoH style game? The answer is to design a series of GUI's, (Graphic User Interface(s)). What's a gui you say? In the lower right hand side of your game screen are two matrices,  a 1x6 matrix to allow you to access the different HQ's and a 3x4 matrix to give you access to: units (=game pieces), strategies; (panzer assault, panzers support, switches); call-ins,(2 pz5 battle group), etc. the lower right corner of each gui is the staging point. it is common to all 3x4 gui's in the game, (except for the T5 auxiliary HQ. a special case)The location of the staging point is (3,4) or (3,D) in the 3x4 gui matrix; always!    capische?italian (=understanding).
If someone will assemble a list of proposed units using: the "insert list" function in the:  Post Reply page, (where you write your reply's), toolbar;  we can get started on Canadian_factionmod.

If Y'all would like my assistance in developing a Canadian Factionmod, It has to be a historical simulation. One Killer ZombieCanuck-lumberjack super-Sniper  suggestion and I'm done with the concept. I can do it using EFv1.3.1  game mechanics but I am not interested. Weird concept though.....Ehh![/]

BTW relative to kilts and the western desert; There is a famous picture of Churchill, A British commander, (Wavell, O'Connor)? and a group of Tommies frolicking in the Mediterranean Sea, on R&R. No swimming suits for Tommies or anyone else. They are all wearing Bonnetsbrit =headgear appropriate to their roles. Churchill is shown wearing only a bowler hat and a stogie of course......


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Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2011, 06:24:22 PM »

Sommerkatze You should be aware of the "Devils Brigade" 1SSF? They were an Elite assembly of American and Canadian loggers, roughnecks and Ne'rdowells trained for Airborne Ranger service. They landed at Anzio and paradropped into The South of France. They didn't wear kilts though.  ;)

Yes sir Iam wery aware of the devils brigade :D There is even a whole movie about them! ( Well, it aint realistic for scheise XD)

I Think they would be an excellent call in unit ! With the abilety to upgrade to M1941 Johnson light machineguns! :D (A very fascinating weapon indeed,)

Canada is famous for having one of the greatest navys during the war also. I think they should have some abilety like that? Like Naval battery barrage or something? XD

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Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2011, 07:56:18 PM »
Ok I have an idea, Command squad can be upgraded with:
battalion radio operator (gives squad arty barrage ability)
Piper (heroic Charge)
thats what I've thought of just now but I need one more  :-\
hope you like those 2 suggestions  8)
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Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2011, 03:21:13 AM »
Ok I have an idea, Command squad can be upgraded with:
battalion radio operator (gives squad arty barrage ability)
Piper (heroic Charge)
thats what I've thought of just now but I need one more  :-\
hope you like those 2 suggestions  8)

It would be easyier to give the ComSqd(3m sqd:2r1p): Upgrade: "The Piper"(4m Sqd:2r1p): (ability: morale, hold ground, fear, (have you ever been woken up by a nube piper at 5:30 AM? I have).

Ability: Artillery call-in  as a veterancy1 buff.  Ability: break suppression, vet2. buff.



Were Canadian commandos used during the St Nazaire Raid?

Guys I can see this as a Company Commander Doctrine choice sub-faction! for use with the RMC...... bonus faction allready in existance.

4CP call in Canadien Task force, 1 Com squad,2 inf squad, 1 M4 (didn't the Cdns have their own variant to the Sherman

2CP call in: 1SSF(5m sqd)...infiltration....upgrade: Johnson ;D .

3cp Dudlley Do Right, a boone crockett class sniper hunter .... this one might take some work, maybe just a sniper.
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Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2011, 09:53:59 AM »
from what I know there weren't any canadian commando's used in the St.Nazaire raid. But there probabaly was canadians there as well as poles, french, belgian and dutch servicemen who escaped from europe and volunteered for the commando's :) . But yeah I think we could use the RMC as a doctrine, the call in suggestions sound awesome ;D . I'm also thinking of making the 1st polish armoured division as a doctrine (like the US armoured one) as they supported the canadians during operation totalize  :)
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Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2011, 12:05:36 PM »
 ;D :D :) ;D :D yeah! Gen. Maczek's 1st Armoured!

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« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2011, 02:00:30 PM »
Yay! The Johnson<3 :D

I think imo that the standard canadian infantry aint going to have the abilety to upgrade to Bren :o Because the British already have it so the differance between these two factions are going to be zero XD Make them Sten smgs instead :D

The riflegrenades are okey. Or maybe it could be an abilety? Like the british recon shot or what is called? XD

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